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scottdisco

rip this joint please
padraig (u.s.) said:
tho famine may be & often is used as a weapon.
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definitely.

Alex de Waal's own case studies focus on African famines (though he is familiar with other regions as background) and although he doesn't entirely kick Sen to the kerb, he definitely has a new thing going on.
Famine that Kills and Famine Crimes are two worthwhile reads.

nomadthethird said:
Anyone who isn't a believer is summarily placed into the "Them" in an Us versus Them game of "dialectical" unreason.
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that's an apt description of an SWP blog in the UK.

a Bosnian-Serb ex-pat i used to work with often used to sing old Italian songs as we worked, that was nice.
 
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nikbee

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nomadthethird said:
I don't believe you. In Croatia they start kids in school earlier than 6, and you should at least remember Russian...

I remember the Italian I heard as a kid, and I can usually tell what people are saying.
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what is your problem? you want me to upload my birth certificate? fucking hell..

i skipped pre school cause i hated it, and i would throw shit fits.. i stayed home with my grandmother.. i arrived in US in summer of 1991.. i started 1st grade in the autumn here, in the US..
 
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nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
nikbee said:
what is your problem? you want me to upload my birth certificate? fucking hell..

i skipped pre school cause i hated it, and i would throw shit fits.. i stayed home with my grandmother.. i arrived in US in summer of 1991.. i started 1st grade in the autumn here, in the US..
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Communists let kids stay home from public education? shaaa
 
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nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
I always wonder why the academic communists don't just move to Cuba, where there's still a thriving Party. Wouldn't that be better than taking money from capitalists? Apparently not, because they all do it. And they go do little PR junkets for their books. And they keep on truckin under the big C. Just like the rest of us.
 
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scottdisco

rip this joint please
1998 World Cup, Croatia XI

fucking tremendous.

(top, from l) Zvonimir Boban, Drazen Ladic, Slaven Bilic, Zvonimir Soldo, Davor Suker, Aljosa Asanovic.

(bottom, from l) Robert Jarni, Igor Stimac, Robert Prosinecki, Krunoslav Jurcic, Mario Stanic.

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Bilic always had that slightly punk look going on.

Boban, exceptional.
 
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nikbee

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nomadthethird said:
I always wonder why the academic communists don't just move to Cuba, where there's still a thriving Party. Wouldn't that be better than taking money from capitalists? Apparently not, because they all do it. And they go do little PR junkets for their books. And they keep on truckin under the big C. Just like the rest of us.
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if youre implying something, say it..

we were refugees, you dumb shit. my father cant live in croatia.. i will not begin to explain my/our being here to you.. its a very complex situation. it was a cruel fucking war, thats all ill say about that.

edit: also, he was not an academic (what does this mean anyway? i work in very poor neighboorhoods, these people have infinitely more humanity than you seem to have), nor is he now.. quite the opposite really.. a real ''proletarian''. as he and i are both now, here in the US.
 
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josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
nomadthethird said:
It does flow in and it doesn't. It creates a virtual world where some comments are very easy to throw out there (usually to fellow believers), without hearing any cogent counterpoints or ever having a chance to actually engage in discourse or dialogue. So you have these little communities that create belief systems that never have to meet up with reality or find a way to work offline: they perpetuate themselves anywhere where there are fellow believers. Anyone who isn't a believer is summarily placed into the "Them" in an Us versus Them game of "dialectical" unreason.
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But how sustainable are these communities, ultimately?

EDIT: Croatia '98, that was a great team. But I raise you Milan '94.
 
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nomadthethird

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
nikbee said:
if youre implying something, say it..

we were refugees, you dumb shit. my father cant live in croatia.. i will not begin to explain my/our being here to you.. its a very complex situation. it was a cruel fucking war, thats all ill say about that.

edit: also, he was not an academic, nor is he now.. quite the opposite really.. a real ''proletarian''. as he and i are both now, here in the US.
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Ironic that it's the country you despise so much that's sheltering you now from fascists?
 
vimothy

vimothy

yurp
surely you mean the unbearable lightness & joy of being communist tho?
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I'm not too sure what I mean, or for that matter, Hardt and Negri.

On the Chinese famine, if that conversation is still going on, and without going too deep into the specifics, there was a policy, the collectivisation of agriculture, which effectively allowed the state to expropriate the product of agricultural workers. This allowed them to sell at a much higher price than the cost, the profits of which would fund the industrialisation of China: "The Great Leap Forward" (which was a great leap back). The grain went to the state; the peasants starved. Resources continued to be diverted to industry; the peasants continued to starve, by their millions.

The Chinese famine occurred at the intersection of (Communist) economic policy and (Communist) political economy.
 
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