IdleRich
IdleRich
Yeah Stewart Lee choreographs it doesn't he?"OT, but you guys realized Jerry Springer is all staged, right?"
Yeah Stewart Lee choreographs it doesn't he?"OT, but you guys realized Jerry Springer is all staged, right?"
You got £10 tickets if you turned up at the box office with a copy of the Bible, at one time.
there isn't any kind of left wing alternative to the BNP so they have a monopoly on the politics of resentment - a commodity which will be increasingly commonplace in the near future.
The line about the generals is interesting, because you'd expect that sort of stuff to be anathema to the bog standard jingoistic Tory right. The BNP's anti-war position is something I'm not sure I understand...
Are the BNP not more left-wing than right (not that it really matters)? They are collectivist, nationalist, favour restrictions on free trade and are strongest in labour heartlands (ie. their voters are more likely to be former labour supporters than conservatives).
certainly a lot of paleo-cons (not that i'm lumping the BNP in there, although they're not a million miles apart) are antiwar for many different reasons.
the Daily Express editorial page (which leans toward British paleo-conservatism - though i am aware paleo-conservatism is a somewhat flip term for a current that has been identified specifically in America) has explicitly argued for British withdrawal from Afghanistan, but going above and beyond usual reasons such as blood and treasure, in addition very clearly implying any positive benefits for Afghan society are not worth it, because Afghan lives are worth intrinsically less than British lives. i don't think a slightly more extreme formulation of that would be too much of a leap for the BNP to view a lot of their world affairs through that sort of prism. it's not as if the party of well-directed boots and fists is scrupulous about the rule of law all the time is it. Griffin mentions international law when it suits him.
apologies for spewing the word "Tories" earlier as it if were some sort of rude word.
It is isn't it? Did I miss that meeting?
Traditionally, the Left includes: social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists[2][3][4][5] while the Right includes: conservatives, fascists, reactionaries, monarchists and nationalists.[6] The classification of capitalism as right-wing or left-wing varies from country to country.[7][citation needed]
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It should be emphasized that in these years there was little in their views of economic policy to distinguish the various factions of the French Revolution from one another. Both Montagnards on the (1792-1793) left and Monarchiens on the (1789) right were essentially orthodox liberals on economic matters, although the Montagnards proved more willing than other groups to court popular favor in Paris by agreeing to (temporary) economic controls in 1793, and there were indeed economic radicals to the left of the Montagnards who insisted on genuine economic redistribution to achieve the Egalité promised by the revolutionary slogan.
You've listed nationalist there with leftist traits. Do you consider nationalism leftist?
European communist countries were somewhat nationalist. Leftism here would be nationalist were there not a larger socialist collective to be part of (ie. the EU).
I thought the Nazis had a fair admixture of leftism in them 'National Sozialistische Duetsche Arbeiter Partei.'
European communist countries were somewhat nationalist. Leftism here would be nationalist were there not a larger socialist collective to be part of (ie. the EU), so I would say they are collectivist-before-nationalist. I thought the Nazis had a fair admixture of leftism in them 'National Sozialistische Duetsche Arbeiter Partei.' As for authoritarianism, the left here micromanages society here and has given as good as the neocons gave abroad so who knows. *parp*
Paleocon--hmm... I don't really associate American and British conservatives.
The BNP, though--no reason to think that they would be liberal or neocon interventionists, but there is a security argument for constinuing to be in Afghanistan, as well as wanting to respond after 9/11. In my experience (not huge, I assure you) this kind of antiwar sentiment is not uncommon amongst neo-nazis. The BNP is basically not very patriotic--they're anti-establishment.
Paleocon--hmm... I don't really associate American and British conservatives.
The BNP, though--no reason to think that they would be liberal or neocon interventionists, but there is a security argument for constinuing to be in Afghanistan, as well as wanting to respond after 9/11. In my experience (not huge, I assure you) this kind of antiwar sentiment is not uncommon amongst neo-nazis.