mixed_biscuits
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Early to bed, early to rise, or the opposite?
Are you an owl or a lark?
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baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Always an owl, to my eternal chagrin (in a way). The hours between about 11 and 3 are just divine for get work done (with a good soundtrack, of course), if you're in the right mood. I remember listening to Tessio on repeat for about an hour last summer while watching the sun come up from my bedroom window. I like that kind of stuff.
Bad habits keep me up late and responsibilities get me up early. I have no idea what my natural owl/lark tendencies are or if I have them. I like the idea of serenely getting up with the dawn but I suspect that given the chance I'd sleep until midday most days. Actually some days I do. 
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I went to the gym before work this morning, for the second time in my life, and I can report that that it is severely mentally disturbed behaviour. Activity before 10 is not natural.
four_five_one
Infinition
Definitely an owl - I mean, it seems acceptable to spend the whole night looking at pornography - but imagine doing that all day? Only a total loser would do that...
That aside, there's nothing better than being up early of a morning, 6am or something (without hangover). And you can happily relax for a few hours before you have to do anything, without worrying about doing anything productive. After all, you're already virtuous simply by being up at such a time.
But usually find myself going to bed at 3am for a while, which is fine but inevitably it creeps 'round until about 10am, and waking up at 6pm. Not a good schedule by any account. So then I have to 'reset', which seems to usually involve a few days of insomnia. I wish benzodiazepines were freely available in the UK, would take a lot of work out of the process.
That aside, there's nothing better than being up early of a morning, 6am or something (without hangover). And you can happily relax for a few hours before you have to do anything, without worrying about doing anything productive. After all, you're already virtuous simply by being up at such a time.
But usually find myself going to bed at 3am for a while, which is fine but inevitably it creeps 'round until about 10am, and waking up at 6pm. Not a good schedule by any account. So then I have to 'reset', which seems to usually involve a few days of insomnia. I wish benzodiazepines were freely available in the UK, would take a lot of work out of the process.
matmustard
theta
Natural owl. Brings a benfit of becoming the part-time lark, thru bleeding eyes.
I enjoy and desire sex, but sincerely dislike porn. Off topic, but I view it as pain, rather than fulfillment. Interesting thread..
I enjoy and desire sex, but sincerely dislike porn. Off topic, but I view it as pain, rather than fulfillment. Interesting thread..
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
porn itself makes a fascinating thread, you're right. Is there one on here already?
four_five_one
Infinition
I don't know. I think most people probably use it for pain relief. Masturbation releases endorphins (or something). Of course when you get really into it, it doesn't particularly matter what you're looking at: I mean on one hand it's of the utmost importance, but on the other it doesn't matter whether you actually desire anyone the images are showing.
The way I usually do it, not to get too vulgar, is to spend the 1st hour watching things I'd like to be involved with myself, with people who I consider desirable. The second hour I start going for 'weirdness', but doing it slowly so it's still enjoyable. So by the third hour I'm usually coming up on ladyboy 'golden shower' type stuff... (not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. why repress?) seems to work well. But there are other variations I employ to keep things interesting.
matmustard
theta
I fear I would engage in a fight that would not satisfactorily conclude. My views are strong. Post, if you will, I'll engage..
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
That's hysterical*, whether fabrication or reality. I like porn, but definitely pay more attention to it when I'm depressed.
* I don't mean this in a bad way, just that it's interesting!
four_five_one
Infinition
Seems to be that the thrill of 'transgression' might often have more of a role to play than any arousal from the acts depicted in themselves - if that makes sense. I assume most paraphillias/fetishes work in this way.
The question is: must pornography always be exploitative? And if yes, how do we approach it as consumers...
The question is: must pornography always be exploitative? And if yes, how do we approach it as consumers...
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Watching porn inevitably increasing the fetishistic nature of one's sexual being, I think, in that you realise you like/come to like (ahem) new things. But I think that can be destructive, although it needn't be.
As for transgression, there are certain things I like for this reason, but not too many, I must say. The problem with most of it is there's so little chemistry between the actors that it's dull.
As to exploitation...I really don't know enough about the industry. Financially, women have more clout than in many industries, that's all I know, but that doesn't stop it being exploitative.
As for transgression, there are certain things I like for this reason, but not too many, I must say. The problem with most of it is there's so little chemistry between the actors that it's dull.
As to exploitation...I really don't know enough about the industry. Financially, women have more clout than in many industries, that's all I know, but that doesn't stop it being exploitative.
four_five_one
Infinition
Yeah, this is usually when I'm feeling slightly depressed (too depressed: not interested at all), when happy/content I'd rather use my imagination to come up with my own fantasies. I mean I've used it that way forever, except a brief period around the time of puberty, when I used it to teach me how to perform various sexual acts. When I'm actually having sex with a real person, I often imagine I'm in a porn film and sometimes 'play to the camera', does anyone else do this?
I have two ambitions which I will never make the tiniest effort towards achieving. One is to make a really fucking brilliant porn film, and the other is to start a free school. Two things entirely seperate, of course.
Seriously though, pornography should be so much better than it is. Surely somebody could do it?
Seriously though, pornography should be so much better than it is. Surely somebody could do it?
matmustard
theta
shit, one's gotta spare a thought for mixed biscuits here - posted a thread about sleeping patterns and it's been taken over by a discussion about the most banal (imo) function of the internet to date. for shame..
there are too many opinions listed above that i'd like to respond to..
wrt porn, my crux is that I refuse to let go of the image - how did the 'participant' arrive at this place? what is their, not background or story, but how did they end up there? it's also worth noting that my personal experience is of straight porn, i've not viewed gay and (maybe naively) feel that it may be somewhat different? (to me that may possibly be relevant?)
to be somwhat freudian for a moment, my 'initiation', if you will, was of one german girl with a number (5ish) of men - one in this hole, one in the other, etc , etc. after a few minutes the female noticeaby passes out, the 'film' jumps and then they're straight back into it. immediately this concerns me. this may be a 'hardcore' example, true, but we're dealing with a largely unregulated industry so it's relevant. i understand that drug use is quite obviously rife in the industry, but how horny can one feel when the subject of one's desire/lust, whatever, is comatose? i found it sickening and walked out to the usual cries of 'faggot'. please...
i hate the 'porn face' adopted by the majority of acresses i have seen, i generally see it as venomous - not in the least bit sexy. vulgar doesn't even come close..
talk of 'transgression' and 'chemistry' (ha!) is joke. explotation? duh, another no-brainer imo. i'm starting to feel angry... somebody pull me up on this one, please, i'd enjoy the opportunity to flex.
put simply, if one needs to watch paid whores (of any gender) to expand one's sexual experience then one is a miserable fucking lay. period.
no disrespect to anyone here, we're debating after all, i appreciate that, but is the time between you and your partner not enough? can you not explore your libido of your own free will? fuck's sake...
of course, if one is depressed - and therefore self-hateful, then of course it stands to reason one's feelings may be transposed. shit fuck, once more..
there are too many opinions listed above that i'd like to respond to..
wrt porn, my crux is that I refuse to let go of the image - how did the 'participant' arrive at this place? what is their, not background or story, but how did they end up there? it's also worth noting that my personal experience is of straight porn, i've not viewed gay and (maybe naively) feel that it may be somewhat different? (to me that may possibly be relevant?)
to be somwhat freudian for a moment, my 'initiation', if you will, was of one german girl with a number (5ish) of men - one in this hole, one in the other, etc , etc. after a few minutes the female noticeaby passes out, the 'film' jumps and then they're straight back into it. immediately this concerns me. this may be a 'hardcore' example, true, but we're dealing with a largely unregulated industry so it's relevant. i understand that drug use is quite obviously rife in the industry, but how horny can one feel when the subject of one's desire/lust, whatever, is comatose? i found it sickening and walked out to the usual cries of 'faggot'. please...
i hate the 'porn face' adopted by the majority of acresses i have seen, i generally see it as venomous - not in the least bit sexy. vulgar doesn't even come close..
talk of 'transgression' and 'chemistry' (ha!) is joke. explotation? duh, another no-brainer imo. i'm starting to feel angry... somebody pull me up on this one, please, i'd enjoy the opportunity to flex.
put simply, if one needs to watch paid whores (of any gender) to expand one's sexual experience then one is a miserable fucking lay. period.
no disrespect to anyone here, we're debating after all, i appreciate that, but is the time between you and your partner not enough? can you not explore your libido of your own free will? fuck's sake...
of course, if one is depressed - and therefore self-hateful, then of course it stands to reason one's feelings may be transposed. shit fuck, once more..
matmustard
theta
i'm really not having a go at anyone here, but to me porn is an absolute scourge, (mostly) bred of and reliant upon hate and misogyny
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I was taking your post seriously until this. So all that moralising was just an excuse to boast about what a 'wonderful lay' you are?! Ffs.
I'll take the other stuff you said seriously (because you do make some good points), but this is just pure unfounded arrogance. So, none of the people you've ever slept with have watched porn. Oh sorry (assuming your sexuality here, so sorry about that), women don't watch porn, do they? You haven't met many women then, to be honest!