The link is still there. God, am I just being cruel now?Wasn't the article linked to about LSD?
The link is still there. God, am I just being cruel now?Wasn't the article linked to about LSD?
The link is still there. God, am I just being cruel now?
In your FACE, Huxley.
(yes they were talking about fictional Soma)
In the description of that study they seem to be suggesting that they think the trip is part of it.I'd guess that LSD is probably more a little more promising an avenue because its dopimanergic effects are longer lasting and at high concentrations could work without causing a "trip."
I don't think anyone here has suggested that science is capitalistic in itself. Lanugo said something about how some drugs could be 'co-opted' as pacifiers but, oh wait droid already said that.nomadthethird said:It amuses me, the hypocrisy of people who want to be able to take their NSAIDs, and their antibiotics, and their immunizations, and smoke their weed, and take their vitamins, get the AIDS cocktail if they need it, etc. etc. Science isn't capitalistical then, it's just dandy. It's only when the medicine that treats those other people is discussed that people suddenly find medical treatment modalities utterly dispensable and socially reprehensible.
Soma is used in the treatment of severe anxiety disorders, insomnia, and muscular/back pain. It's no more inherently "capitalistic" than Tylenol is. It's no more implicated in "pacifying" "society" than ibuprofen is. (Unless you're talking about fictional Soma from BNW? Yes yes, medication, it's all about pacifying rather than treating people. Tell me something I haven't heard a million times from 9th grade stoners).
I love it when people make big sweeping, generalizations about fields they know absolutely nothing about.
Soma is used in the treatment of severe anxiety disorders, insomnia, and muscular/back pain. It's no more inherently "capitalistic" than Tylenol is. It's no more implicated in "pacifying" "society" than ibuprofen is. (Unless you're talking about fictional Soma from BNW? Yes yes, medication, it's all about pacifying rather than treating people. Tell me something I haven't heard a million times from 9th grade stoners).
I love it when people make big sweeping, generalizations about fields they know absolutely nothing about.
So you read the thread but somehow missed the repeated context in which 'Soma' was used as well as the refernces to Huxley and Brave New world?
In the description of that study they seem to be suggesting that they think the trip is part of it.
I don't think anyone here has suggested that science is capitalistic in itself. Lanugo said something about how some drugs could be 'co-opted' as pacifiers but, oh wait droid already said that.
And it wasn't what Huxley was saying, obv. I don't think he was anti-science for one thing. He was commenting more on human weakness and how he saw the desire for comfort and distraction as leading to a willing embrace of oppression.
I love it when people make big sweeping, generalizations about fields they know absolutely nothing about.
The context in which the term was used was abundantly clear and blatantly obvious to anyone but the most wilfully myopic that it was being used in the literay sense.
FYI, Soma was a ritual indian drink long before it became the brand name for Carisoprodol, and in fact it would have made absolutely no sense for the term to be used in that context as we're talking about pyschedleics and carisoprodol is a muscle relaxant.
Probably best if they reply to that themsevels.Why "some" drugs? Why is it always a very specific type of drug that's targeted by people like lanugo?
lanugo said:epiphanies on prescription
No, that's obvious to you because you don't listen to people talk about organic chemicals all day every day, including soma. Soma is of a class that is often lumped in as a "capitalistic" drug.
FYI, The brand name "Soma" actually comes from the word for "body" in latin, not from the book BNW. Or from the Indian drink.
Please dont make me quote the multiple references and the utterly clear context in which it was used. Just read the thread again. Start on the first page.
You pull this stuff out of thin air dont you?
Soma (Sanskrit सोम sóma), or Haoma (Avestan), from Proto-Indo-Iranian *sauma
so·ma 1 (sm)
n. pl. so·ma·ta (-m-t) or so·mas
1. The entire body of an organism, exclusive of the germ cells.
2. See cell body.
3. The body of an individual as contrasted with the mind or psyche.
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[New Latin sma, from Greek, body; see teu- in Indo-European roots.]
Please dont make me quote the multiple references and the utterly clear context in which it was used. Just read the thread again. Start on the first page.
You pull this stuff out of thin air dont you?
Soma (Sanskrit सोम sóma), or Haoma (Avestan), from Proto-Indo-Iranian *sauma
Except of course that Sanskrit predates Old Latin by about a millenium.