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Corpsey
bandz ahoy
You know I can see a lot of similarities between deep tech and dubstep circa 2005/6. The dubbed out effects, the minimal dark basslines, the samples of dialogue from films and rappers etc. Except, as you say, probably better suited to less nerdy dancefloors (not a slight on dubstep at all that was some of my favourite music ever). I was sorry not to come down to RS4 at the last Bodynod.
I reckon Bristol could take to deep tech in a way that it would never have taken to funky. The continuum from DNB through dubstep to this sound is clear, and Bristol is definitely a DNB city at heart (or should that be reggae?).
this ting has not yet been gentrified but if history is anything to go by..
https://soundcloud.com/prettycasualmusic/time-out-rs4-kane-law
this collab by rs4 and kane law is one of the best tunes on the compilation. having said that theres literally maybe 2 tunes on the whole disc that arent anything except very good/great.
https://soundcloud.com/prettycasualmusic/time-out-rs4-kane-law
this collab by rs4 and kane law is one of the best tunes on the compilation. having said that theres literally maybe 2 tunes on the whole disc that arent anything except very good/great.
https://soundcloud.com/jclarkedj/lovehousemay16?in=jclarkedj/sets/lovehouselivemay16th
https://soundcloud.com/jclarkedj/majestylovehousemay?in=jclarkedj/sets/lovehouselivemay16th
https://soundcloud.com/jclarkedj/jakkidegglovehousemay?in=jclarkedj/sets/lovehouselivemay16th
dunno if these have been posted, jclarke, jakki degg and majestys sets from lovehouse last month
https://soundcloud.com/jclarkedj/majestylovehousemay?in=jclarkedj/sets/lovehouselivemay16th
https://soundcloud.com/jclarkedj/jakkidegglovehousemay?in=jclarkedj/sets/lovehouselivemay16th
dunno if these have been posted, jclarke, jakki degg and majestys sets from lovehouse last month
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/proud060714
House Entertainment UK #London @ Proud Camden, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, NW1 8AH // Sunday 6th July from 4pm till 1am, last entry 11pm.
Promotional Mix by Jack N Danny
House Entertainment UK (3 Hour B2B Set)
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Lance Morgan
Lee 'B3' Edwards
Arun Verone
Jack N Danny
Theo Nasa
Paul Robinson
Ellie Cocks
Sef Kombo
Jay Forbez
House Entertainment UK announce our 1st FREE Party of the year, to be held at Proud Camden on Sunday 6th July from 4pm till 1am, last entry 11pm.
Our free parties carry an action packed uniqueness which cant be found at any other event, every House Entertainment UK DJ will play back to back for the final 3 hours of the event, mixing and blending in all of your favourite artists and sounds under one action packed set. As per, the LIVE Midi Keyboard will be amplified for our artists to add a new dimension to each track played on the night.
Our free parties will feature twice a year, once in the summer and another in the winter to say goodbye to the present year. Our winter episode will be on Sunday 28th December at TBA Location!
Guest-list is NOT required for this event, there is no need to send us names. ID is essential, entry to the event will be refused if ID is not present.
Venue will operate a 'one in - one out' policy as capacity is reached - please ensure early arrival. Proud Camden have the right to refuse entry to anyone seemed not fit for the party.
The 1st 200 in attendance will receive complimentary tickets to the next scheduled event: SkinnyFAT - Friday 18th July - Club No.65
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Recordings from the House Ent special @ WarehouseLDN. Strictly own production. Only half hour per set so pretty easy to get through
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/anticxherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/x5dubsherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/jackndannyherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/arunveroneherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/lancemorganherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
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This one from Eastside Recordz come out today. Definite grime vibe.
https://soundcloud.com/east-side-10/sets/spartan-ep-forthcoming
House Entertainment UK #London @ Proud Camden, The Stables Market, Chalk Farm Road, NW1 8AH // Sunday 6th July from 4pm till 1am, last entry 11pm.
Promotional Mix by Jack N Danny
House Entertainment UK (3 Hour B2B Set)
+
Lance Morgan
Lee 'B3' Edwards
Arun Verone
Jack N Danny
Theo Nasa
Paul Robinson
Ellie Cocks
Sef Kombo
Jay Forbez
House Entertainment UK announce our 1st FREE Party of the year, to be held at Proud Camden on Sunday 6th July from 4pm till 1am, last entry 11pm.
Our free parties carry an action packed uniqueness which cant be found at any other event, every House Entertainment UK DJ will play back to back for the final 3 hours of the event, mixing and blending in all of your favourite artists and sounds under one action packed set. As per, the LIVE Midi Keyboard will be amplified for our artists to add a new dimension to each track played on the night.
Our free parties will feature twice a year, once in the summer and another in the winter to say goodbye to the present year. Our winter episode will be on Sunday 28th December at TBA Location!
Guest-list is NOT required for this event, there is no need to send us names. ID is essential, entry to the event will be refused if ID is not present.
Venue will operate a 'one in - one out' policy as capacity is reached - please ensure early arrival. Proud Camden have the right to refuse entry to anyone seemed not fit for the party.
The 1st 200 in attendance will receive complimentary tickets to the next scheduled event: SkinnyFAT - Friday 18th July - Club No.65
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Recordings from the House Ent special @ WarehouseLDN. Strictly own production. Only half hour per set so pretty easy to get through
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/anticxherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/x5dubsherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/jackndannyherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/arunveroneherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
https://soundcloud.com/house-ent/lancemorganherlabelparty1?in=house-ent/sets/herlabelparty1
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This one from Eastside Recordz come out today. Definite grime vibe.
https://soundcloud.com/east-side-10/sets/spartan-ep-forthcoming
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trust me
and it only took 16 months
that simon reynolds ting hurt my head and not because of all the airy fairy language
some of it boiled down to i dont like the name, the name is old so this is not new kinda rhetoric.
but the 180 in a cupl of days is quite hilarious, still he's abit too short sighted.
some of it boiled down to i dont like the name, the name is old so this is not new kinda rhetoric.
but the 180 in a cupl of days is quite hilarious, still he's abit too short sighted.
What's wrong with people changing their minds! I know I did with this stuff. It just took me showing him some songs I reckoned were more up his street based on what I know about his taste in music...
I still think the name is boring as hell, totally inadequate for this amazing music. And inaccurate too, it's not like 'deep' or 'techy' are the main characteristics of this music...
Re the not new thing, you have to put it in context to his broader writings on retromania. His theory is that western culture as a whole has lost the modernist drive that characterised popular culture in the 20th century, and that holds for music, films, architecture etc etc etc. one of the ideas he uses is that of hyper-stasis, a mixture of hyper activity on a micro level (more music than ever before being made, micro/sub genres bubbling up and dying in a few months - see Sea Punk -) but a lack of progression on macro stage - no radical ruptures on the level of jungle or grime, let alone whole new cultural forms ala the rave scene, punk, hip hop, rock n roll etc.
The fact that the biggest thing in UK music ATM is a return to house music which takes in all the UK rave music's of the last 25 years really doesn't disprove this idea at all. There is something disappointing on a wider cultural level about the inability to create anything radically new.
The question is do you focus on newness/originality exclusively, or do you take part in and enjoy the fruits of a powerful music and subculture even if it isn't radically different to what came before. Do you focus on modernism to the exclusion of other values like the quality of the music, the energy of the scene, the vibes in the clubs?
I choose to enjoy the moment now, but that doesn't mean it can't be criticised or put into context. If they could invent brand new types only music even 10 years ago (grime), why not now?
I still think the name is boring as hell, totally inadequate for this amazing music. And inaccurate too, it's not like 'deep' or 'techy' are the main characteristics of this music...
Re the not new thing, you have to put it in context to his broader writings on retromania. His theory is that western culture as a whole has lost the modernist drive that characterised popular culture in the 20th century, and that holds for music, films, architecture etc etc etc. one of the ideas he uses is that of hyper-stasis, a mixture of hyper activity on a micro level (more music than ever before being made, micro/sub genres bubbling up and dying in a few months - see Sea Punk -) but a lack of progression on macro stage - no radical ruptures on the level of jungle or grime, let alone whole new cultural forms ala the rave scene, punk, hip hop, rock n roll etc.
The fact that the biggest thing in UK music ATM is a return to house music which takes in all the UK rave music's of the last 25 years really doesn't disprove this idea at all. There is something disappointing on a wider cultural level about the inability to create anything radically new.
The question is do you focus on newness/originality exclusively, or do you take part in and enjoy the fruits of a powerful music and subculture even if it isn't radically different to what came before. Do you focus on modernism to the exclusion of other values like the quality of the music, the energy of the scene, the vibes in the clubs?
I choose to enjoy the moment now, but that doesn't mean it can't be criticised or put into context. If they could invent brand new types only music even 10 years ago (grime), why not now?
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completely. scenes evolve, so should your opinion. i couldnt be bothered with the proto-funky DJs playing fish go deep clones but when it evolved and the snares got involved then boy, happy to be an advocate.
one part at play here is the new-to-you factor. i like the bleep bass sound in radford's sets and RS4/Oris' beats but generally this stuff is too much like house i've heard before imo. but i'm sure a lot of the energy in the scene comes from people raving to it who've just got involved so why on earth would they be weighed down with the past (ie 90s tech house etc), when their eyes are rolling and the venue's rammed?
to extend that further, i can fully see why most non-Dissensians go to raves just for the escapism: i think other critics and us lot probably have a larger bias towards "newness/originality exclusively". i'm fine with this, just observing a factor.
it's uncanny that you of all people should fall for this stuff Corpsey, since you were the original Yunx fanboy (of which he now has X million), and there's a parallel to be drawn between his seamless purism and the Radford sets I listen to. Radford shows seem like one massive riff on the same idea, iteration on iteration topped up with his gruff, friendly and very frequent "forthcoming... Audio Rehab" interjections.
I was driving too fast to a show of his recently - the seamless linear driving/driven-ness of it really fits with motorway driving and as a DJ I started to try and play a game where I tried to guess when the next tune was coming in. but it's all so linear, hard-compressed (both by the producer and then by the rinse compressor), not to mention well mixed and suited to mixing, that i could barely spot the "incoming" before it was out. Yunx sets are the same.
as a say, Radford feels really focused, riffing on the same idea - not one i personally can see has interesting mileage without wholesale structural or sonic template shifts but as always, no one can deny how much momentum and energy there is around this stuff now and in the last three years.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
Hah! Flattered to be called an original yunx fanboy although compared to many I was a johnny come lately. The last set I listened to of his I found really dull. Something about the tunes had become over sophisticated/sterile somehow, as if techy DNB producers have been making tunes to suit him (maybe this is a bias though cos I know kryptic minds were a favourite of his for a while).
But yeah absolutely worshipped him back in the day! Still think his Dubstep all stars is the definitive Dubstep mix (at least for half step stuff), and I can see the parallel with deep tech. Actually Simon's pointing to the bass lines as being the most innovative/distinctive part of deep tech atm seems fairly on point to me and is another link with Dubstep. The half step in of itself was innovative within the context of dance music but in those tunes the bass was often the driving rhythmic force. I want to go to a deep tech rave with a good system cos I bet those bass throbs are really propulsive live. Also they provide the syncopation which links deep tech to funky/garage for me as much as "straight" tech house.
But yeah absolutely worshipped him back in the day! Still think his Dubstep all stars is the definitive Dubstep mix (at least for half step stuff), and I can see the parallel with deep tech. Actually Simon's pointing to the bass lines as being the most innovative/distinctive part of deep tech atm seems fairly on point to me and is another link with Dubstep. The half step in of itself was innovative within the context of dance music but in those tunes the bass was often the driving rhythmic force. I want to go to a deep tech rave with a good system cos I bet those bass throbs are really propulsive live. Also they provide the syncopation which links deep tech to funky/garage for me as much as "straight" tech house.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
BTW I am wary of making out like deep tech is only interesting cos it has certain resemblances to Dubstep or it can only be valuable as part of a continuum. Saying that beyond the technical resemblances to Dubstep I think what is attractive about this stuff to fans of old Dubstep is a refreshing stripped down quality alongside that dancefloor functionality.
Re: London vybez in the deep tech sound, a little snippet from my interview wit Mark Radford.
D: So you know there's always like, the sound of London, like London radio always has something going on; like jungle, drum and bass, speed garage, 2-step, grime, dubstep, you know there's always something. Do you see what you're doing as like, closer to London pirate music or closer to house music? Like, international house music.
M: Umm… Closer to the London thing, without a doubt. Because all my influences have come from like the London scene, like I said, everything that I put out in my music has come from London. I was never into house per se, with regards to the bigger house names, until I started experimenting with the music, then I discovered newer names - like, my youth was drum n bass and jungle. That, was my music. And then, as I've got older, my tastes have changed, I wasn't going out raving to this music, because I had children when I was young, so I used to work all the time. I still kept DJing, but then, because I wasn't out raving to this music, I discovered it via DJing.
D: So you know there's always like, the sound of London, like London radio always has something going on; like jungle, drum and bass, speed garage, 2-step, grime, dubstep, you know there's always something. Do you see what you're doing as like, closer to London pirate music or closer to house music? Like, international house music.
M: Umm… Closer to the London thing, without a doubt. Because all my influences have come from like the London scene, like I said, everything that I put out in my music has come from London. I was never into house per se, with regards to the bigger house names, until I started experimenting with the music, then I discovered newer names - like, my youth was drum n bass and jungle. That, was my music. And then, as I've got older, my tastes have changed, I wasn't going out raving to this music, because I had children when I was young, so I used to work all the time. I still kept DJing, but then, because I wasn't out raving to this music, I discovered it via DJing.