the hardcore continuum

[luka]

nick cave is a middlebrow hack. jim morrison is a rock god. thats the basic difference.

 

[luka]

caves attempts to write novels are 1000 times more embaressing than jim morrisons poems. at least morrison wasnt fawning in the direction of the observer culture supplement.

 

[luka]

anyway words are unlikely to sway you
instead heres one you might not have heard, put your preconceptions aside and check it out

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

caves attempts to write novels are 1000 times more embaressing than jim morrisons poems

i'm not the one who brought up cave, that was blissblogger. same for andrew eldritch.

 

[luka]

break on thru is the rock and roll impulse hes put it in a nutshell. what a great lyric and he got it right off american fascist ezra pound one of my favourite poets.

 

[luka]

i'm not the one who brought up cave, that was blissblogger. same for andrew eldritch.

doesnt matter, any excuse to slag off cave

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

you brought up Iggy Pop

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

doesnt matter, any excuse to slag off cave

fair play

 

[luka]

i suppose im quite interested in the resistance to the doors. i hadnt realised it was so strong. i started the police thread cos i knew there was resistance but had underestimated it it turns out. with the doors i just thouhgt everyone liked em, like ice cream or sunshine.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

like ice cream or sunshine

see, this is how I think of disco + you're upthread talking shit on Salsoul. Salsoul! that's like hating joy.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

dude here in America The Doors are entryist guff

what can one say, horses, courses, etc

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

fwiw I would definitely rather listen to The Police than the Doors. the inauthenticity is at least authentic there. plenty garbage but a few jams too.

Voices Inside My Head is killer, and a million times better than any Doors song

 

[Leo]

 

[Leo]

you brought up Iggy Pop

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

ya I was gonna mention he tells the exact same story in Please Kill Me, oiled ringlets + Soul Kitchen + all

what that clip leaves out is that he was also actively trolling the U of M frat boys shouting for Light My Fire, messing w/their machismo a bit, etc

if that Morrison ever came across on the records I could maybe see some of the appeal, but he doesn't

 

[Leo]

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

I do find it interesting to be so far apart on this, cos on major touchstones - jungle, post-punk (PIL etc) - there's a basic dissensus consensus

I wonder what other wedge issues are lying in wait, ready to spark major polemica

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

what with zhao not being around to do his thing

 

[Leo]

the question is: are they just winding you up?

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

luka, who knows, I doubt even he's sure all the time, that's kinda the point

blissblogger tho? seems an awful lotta trouble to go to. just a true Doors fan.

as long as we can all agree The Eagles are terrible, everything is still perfectly copacetic.