The Grime Hall of Shame

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sadmanbarty

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WebEschatology said:
There is none literally no good N Dubz tunes

also does Tinie Tempah deserve to be put on the list? i never wouldve guessed that of all the brehs from Aftershock he would be the megastar
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he has jme in the video and he enunciates his words so that my nan would say "oh, doesn't he talk well for one of them".

he's a signifier of what was to come.
 
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forclosure

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Dizzee is also the reason the Mercury Music Prize went from being this weird thing nobody really understood that jazz musicians and indie bands won to this thing people acutally bet money on and eagerly await..yet still nobody really understands it
 
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blissblogger

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luka said:
He's certainly a proper producer i don't think it's cutesy or kitsch though and ruff squad were on planet mu too despite rapid being the polar opposite of a proper producer. I like terror danjah a lot. I like that's it's not blocky, that it moves in a different way to everyone else.
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he's the 4 Hero of grime. I mean, unless Barty thinks that grime by its nature must have shitty production, i'm not sure where Terror fails. Kitsch isn't the word that springs to my mind listening to "Cockback"
 
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sadmanbarty

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i don't hate terror danjah. maybe a better way of putting it is that it sounds a bit out of place in grime sets. all the sludgy, squishy dick and dom timbres don't sit well alongside dry, crunchy, brutalist instrumentals. it works better as its own separate thing (i'm listening to some of his stuff now and it's incredible).

as it happens i'm not that keen on the cock back instrumental, it reminds me of the captain pugwash theme. d double's brilliant 'think your a big boy' fall flat on it. riko's amazing on it though.

what is good about it is that if you play it at 1.5 the speed, it perfectly demonstrates the unified field theory of tresillo:

 
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thirdform

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luka said:
He's certainly a proper producer i don't think it's cutesy or kitsch though and ruff squad were on planet mu too despite rapid being the polar opposite of a proper producer. I like terror danjah a lot. I like that's it's not blocky, that it moves in a different way to everyone else.
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yeh, all of this. his beats are like a brutal tech film rather than gabba pummel. aquatic and punishing simultaneously. low key innovator when everyone is on arca and jam city hype.

And come on sadam you must have some planet mu records.

same thing killed grime as jungle and garage. inter-scene ppetty squabbling politics. i get a bit irritated that it's only me crowl and luke who talk about this.
 
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thirdform

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sadmanbarty said:
luke has a far higher propensity for children's tv rap than me. wu tang killed it for the most part (although about half of 36 chambers is art attack rap)
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looooooooool i don't mean to go hard on you but it's almost like u bring it upon urself and make my work easy...

That's exactly what Migos are! childrens rap, provincial Irish rap!
 
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thirdform

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WebEschatology said:
There is none literally no good N Dubz tunes

also does Tinie Tempah deserve to be put on the list? i never wouldve guessed that of all the brehs from Aftershock he would be the megastar
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tinnie tempa sounded like my old mate Theo from private school. i can def see the huge crossover appeal there.

the same people into n dubs were into stuff like this lol:



scouse house lol. slackk should illustrate that continuum going for 20 years or so lol.
 
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luka

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Grime never managed to reproduce itself, like jungle and garage and funky and whatever else before it. It's just this brilliant shooting star that lights up the sky and then it's gone. Again you have to assume these are demographic issues, with economic consequences following from the demographic situation.
rap and dancehall have reproduced themselves for 40 years, each decade having its own array of heroes, both working within and expanding its parameters. That doesn't happen here, or hasn't, yet. for better or for worse.
 
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DannyL

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Big Narstie's TV show deserves a mention here. It's quite enjoyable in a way. Well trodden path also - music to broader entertainment career. It's an attempt to trade on his persona and if it can work for Jonathon Ross why not for him (I am so OLD my reference points are like 20 years out of date). But still, it's more something you'd watch with your Mum at Xmas than discuss on here.
 
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luka

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it's the hook that obscures any of its redeeming features for Barty though isn't it. He can't forgive it.
 
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