padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
show me where any of that is disputable
imparting a consciousness and will to "complexity" is the same as imparting them to the "cosmos"complexity can hasten itself by imposing a "something" to propel it
can this be clarified without the word saladThe dubious thing is the drinking-of-owns-own-koolaid that is fundamentally opposed
Even if this is just worshipping at a different altar - is it not the most pragmatic one? A pragmatism that ought to calibrate around some averaged aim of humanity.imparting a consciousness and will to "complexity" is the same as imparting them to the "cosmos"
you're just worshiping at a different altar - complexity, guided self-organization, whatever
while saying "but no, this is different"
"The dubious thing is the drinking-of-owns-own-koolaid that is fundamentally opposed"
can this be clarified without the word salad
by itself this isn't the worst idea, or an original one - it's pretty much just utilitarianismcalibrate around some averaged aim of humanity
it's hard to think of a better summation of benevolent totalitarianismPart of the difficulty is that, to get this across, one needs to express that all expressions, even the ones aimed against it, are valid
Great points, and yeah you're right, that the mainstream conversation regarding AI is locked in a kind of fetal paralysis because the concept is too fantastic and dominated by sci-fi portrayal (which is often sensationalized to highly detrimental extents, no?). Ultron, Her, Matrix - various portrayals (of varying calibers) which send messages that are almost always oveshadowed by the more impressive production elements.
Vimothy, who makes over a million (£) a year as a programmer says there is no way AI is happening. It's sci-fi fantasy.
I thought you had studied history? or enough not to make such lame caricatures as "the Dark Ages"
hunter-gatherers successfully existed for tens of thousands of years. industrial humanity has wrecked the planet in a few hundred.
that's not an argument for quality of life, just sustainability
I can start to see where this could very much apply to what I'm talking about.benevolent totalitarianism
Hopefully the right cosmology can harness capitalism's incredible momentum, rather than let capitalism continue to exploit our relatively immature sensibilities.tho capitalism is already perfectly good at that, without all the fancy cosmology talk, in the form of recuperation
@suspendedreason you really do have to stop attributing positions to people they don't hold, it's a terrible habit
again you'd think someone with a fancy education would know not to keep setting up strawmen