Do you want Trump dead from the Virus?

Yes or No?

  • I want that man dead

  • I hope he pulls through


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Leo

Well-known member
trumpism will remain with us for awhile, but no one would be able to emulate trump. donny jr ain't gonna pull it off.
 

blissblogger

Well-known member
want him to survive to see the blue tsunami; be too shagged out to lead a coup; be well enough not to get clemency in any prison sentences, and to watch all his executive actions etc etc reversed by Biden-Harris.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Don't crush my (our) dreams... and let's face it, he has broken loads of laws and everyone knows it, it's not impossible. By now he probably has more friends inside than outside, he shouldn't have pardoned them though, he might end up lonely as a result.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Is the tactical, pro-recovery side of the idea that Trump will likely lose the election regardless, and that his death could potentially galvanize the right and turn over the Trump libido into more politically savvy hands?
"into more politically savvy hands" is your addition and I'm not sure it's true, depending what is meant by savvy

and it's not just about the immediate potential galvanization but also the longer-term implications of Trump as endurying martyr-hero

but basically, yeah
 

Leo

Well-known member
axios :
Trump doing "extremely well" 72 hours after COVID-19 diagnosis, doctor says

Dr. Sean Conley said Trump has not had a fever in the last 24 hours and is not currently receiving supplemental oxygen. His medical team remains "cautiously optimistic."

NYT:
President Trump’s vital signs on Saturday were concerning as doctors mounted an aggressive effort to treat him and he was not out of danger, a person close to the situation said, even as the coronavirus infected an ever widening swath of the president’s aides and allies.

While doctors maintained during a televised briefing that Mr. Trump was “doing very well” after a night at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, they refused to provide critical details and left open the impression that the president was known to be sick a day earlier than previously reported.

Shortly after the upbeat briefing by the doctors, a person familiar with the president’s health gave a more sober assessment to reporters at Walter Reed on the condition of anonymity. “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care,” this person said. “We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”

Two people close to the White House said in separate interviews with The New York Times that the president had trouble breathing on Friday and that his oxygen level dropped, prompting his doctors to give him supplemental oxygen while at the White House and decide to transfer him to Walter Reed where he could be monitored with better equipment and treated more rapidly in case of trouble.

Dr. Sean P. Conley, the White House physician, told reporters outside Walter Reed that the president was not currently on supplemental oxygen on Saturday but repeatedly declined to say definitively whether he had ever been on oxygen. “None at this moment and yesterday with the team, while we were all here, he was not on oxygen,” he said, seeming to suggest that there was a period on Friday when he was.
 

Leo

Well-known member
could be a whole new ballgame after this weekend. history in the making.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
axios :
Trump doing "extremely well" 72 hours after COVID-19 diagnosis, doctor says

Dr. Sean Conley said Trump has not had a fever in the last 24 hours and is not currently receiving supplemental oxygen. His medical team remains "cautiously optimistic."

NYT:
President Trump’s vital signs on Saturday were concerning as doctors mounted an aggressive effort to treat him and he was not out of danger, a person close to the situation said, even as the coronavirus infected an ever widening swath of the president’s aides and allies.

While doctors maintained during a televised briefing that Mr. Trump was “doing very well” after a night at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, they refused to provide critical details and left open the impression that the president was known to be sick a day earlier than previously reported.

Shortly after the upbeat briefing by the doctors, a person familiar with the president’s health gave a more sober assessment to reporters at Walter Reed on the condition of anonymity. “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care,” this person said. “We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”

Two people close to the White House said in separate interviews with The New York Times that the president had trouble breathing on Friday and that his oxygen level dropped, prompting his doctors to give him supplemental oxygen while at the White House and decide to transfer him to Walter Reed where he could be monitored with better equipment and treated more rapidly in case of trouble.

Dr. Sean P. Conley, the White House physician, told reporters outside Walter Reed that the president was not currently on supplemental oxygen on Saturday but repeatedly declined to say definitively whether he had ever been on oxygen. “None at this moment and yesterday with the team, while we were all here, he was not on oxygen,” he said, seeming to suggest that there was a period on Friday when he was.
I'm curious. Normally with stuff like this, it's a good sign that the patient is lucid and coherent. But with Trump, wouldn't that indicate something horribly wrong with him?
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I do like how favoring not death>death has made unlikely allies of people who think he's the greatest person to ever live etc and people who loathe him but prefer survival for narrow, calculated tactical reasons

or look at the voting here - me John + HMG opposing a center-left European coalition

I'm curious to see what the other Americans think - @Leo or the stan/gus/Linebaugh (I forget his nickname) youth trinity - in re death or not death
This is the thing though - to state the very obvious, he has such a degrading capacity on any debate, he's so hateful, hard not to wish for his immediate torturous demise
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I voted Yes, not because I think it would be the optimal outcome for America or the world - it obviously wouldn't - but because the question is "do you want him dead", and not "would his death be a good thing", which is another question entirely.
 
Here's a theory: Nancy pelosi has been going on about "fumigating" the white House, having agents drag him out after a disputed election. Would it not be harder to do that if he's in a military hospital, working from what's clearly been described as an official presidential office there. Pre suspected coup positioning, ill or not?
 

Leo

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a military hospital is just a hospital that sick members of the military go to. it's not a fortress surrounded by troops and a moat.
 
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a military hospital is just a hospital that sick members of the military go to. it's not a fortress surrounded by troops and a moat.

No troops at all at this military hospital?
What about the troops inside. Possible human shield in the event of it being besieged by hordes of antifa and pussy hats in November. The military might not like there buddies being threatened

I'm just flapping my gums.
 
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Leo

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No troops at all at this military hospital?
What about the troops inside. Possible human shield in the event of it being besieged by hordes of antifa and pussy hats in November. The military might not like there buddies being threatened

I'm just flapping my gums.

I'm sure the even female nurses at a military hospital could kick my ass, so you might be on to something.
 

luka

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Trump dying in office is the true poetic conclusion to his term. It would follow the logic.

It would bookend it in a really beautiful way and make the entire period feel like some lurid fever dream or collective hallucination.
 

luka

Well-known member
In that sense it might make it easier to file it away as an aberration. Reality malfunctioning and then self-correcting. A return to your regular scheduled broadcast
 
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