Coil

[sufi]

i got another degree from UEL too actually, just in case - that's a nice uni too and in yr neighbourhood

 

[luka]

i thoght you were militantly anti-intellectual

 

[luka]

proudly unacademic and anti-authoritarian. now it turns out you were a swot in school! i feel betrayed

 

[luka]

you were a suck up to the teacher guy. wtf!

 

[sufi]

i

proudly unacademic and anti-authoritarian. now it turns out you were a swot in school! i feel betrayed

nah, i spent a lot of time skiving about as a student and converted all that edumacation into the not that impressive career path that you see before you

 

[luka]

this is bad

 

[Murphy]

don’t you apply yourself an an archaeologist of poetry?

 

[luka]

yeah i think so. i am going to, if i get round to it, apply for archeology and creative writing and see what response i get

 

[Murphy]

Archaeography

 

[sufi]

this is bad

it was brilliant. spent all the student funding* on travelling, then spent the year in the library reading up on all the places i'd visited, then scraped through the unrelated coursework by the skin of my teeth,
you'd be fine, unless you take it all very seriously turn out to be an orrible swot

*this was he 90s

i did a course in birkbeck a couple of years ago too - that was quite shit though, soas bar is carded entry these days, and the era of cheap student food is long gone - it's £4.70 for a coffee and free veggy slop from the hare krishnas

 

[luka]

im not sure i will be fine. i have very serious problems with this stuff. i tried twice and got kicked out twice. its almost impossible for me to suck up in the required manner.

 

[sufi]

get on a prynne course? is he still teaching??

i told you he turned my mate down for a place at cambridge isnt it?

 

[luka]

yeah you did! hes not teaching. hes been retired for a very long time. hes 84 now

 

[sufi]

i checked in with my soas tutor about the brutal museums question recently, he was retired for donkey's years but they are still embedded at these institutions
the likes of dona haraway and paul gilroy likewise - superheroes!

 

[sufi]

you need to get in there, get an academic badge and a comfy office

 

[Murphy]

First year archaeology is a lazy haze fest. Until you do your first dig. I realised then that it was much better to work in later prehistory and early historical sources than experience arthritis in waterlogged trenches before middle age. Pretty cosmic when that penny dropped

I guess Coil played a part in the archaeological imagination, Jarman too, fuck even old Copey. The archaeological imagination and creative writing are old friends. Everyone worth a read has ploughed into these furrows. Go for it, the world is borked for a bit. Why not blaze a light through a poetic jumper no-one else has imagined

 

[luka]

i wanted to be an archeologist when i was a child but i got bullied out of it at school. charles olson, jh prynne (and peter riley) are massive on the archeology

 

[sufi]

First year archaeology is a lazy haze fest. Until you do your first dig. I realised then that it was much better to work in later prehistory and early historical sources than experience arthritis in waterlogged trenches before middle age. Pretty cosmic when that penny dropped

I guess Coil played a part in the archaeological imagination, Jarman too, fuck even old Copey. The archaeological imagination and creative writing are old friends. Everyone worth a read has ploughed into these furrows. Go for it, the world is borked for a bit. Why not blaze a light through a poetic jumper no-one else has imagined

i never did a single dig my degree was pure books

 

[sufi]

i wanted to be an archeologist when i was a child but i got bullied out of it at school. charles olson, jh prynne (and peter riley) are massive on the archeology

we covered that ambition on the indiana jones thread didnt we?

 

[Murphy]

i never did a single dig my degree was pure books

Did a couple around the Dartmoor Reaves. It rained like the place was possessed. Beautiful landscapes but a nightmare trying to fight the elements

Later prehistory offered classical sources and actual names, which seemed a bit futile initially when you’re knee deep in cosmic monuments, but then I realised they feed into Yeats and so many other inspiring writers

That intersection between the past and our imagination is one of the more interesting ones to delve into - gods in the hedgerows