Mr. Tea

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Leo

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Did trump fuck it up this weekend?
Biden was duly elected at the time of Saigon too.
Taiwan next and it's a hat trick.

did trump's deal allow for an alternative ending? sounds more like 20+ years of fuck ups, capped off by trump leaving someone else holding the bag.

and so now a senator is the fall guy for Vietnam?
 

hmg

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did trump's deal allow for an alternative ending? sounds more like 20+ years of fuck ups, capped off by trump leaving someone else holding the bag.

and so now a senator is the fall guy for Vietnam?

I suspect it wouldn't have gone quite like the humiliating and chaotic spectacle of losing Bagram on day 1.
 

hmg

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did trump's deal allow for an alternative ending? sounds more like 20+ years of fuck ups, capped off by trump leaving someone else holding the bag.

and so now a senator is the fall guy for Vietnam?

"Two weeks before Saigon fell in April 1975, a 32-year-old Joe Biden was among the senators summoned to the White House for a top-secret briefing on the crisis in Vietnam.

Though just a freshman, Biden gave the president a clear message: The situation in Vietnam was hopeless, and the United States should leave as quickly as possible, according to a column by Rowland Evans and Robert Novak at the time that described Biden’s interactions with then-President Gerald Ford."
- Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...155518-fdd5-11eb-ba7e-2cf966e88e93_story.html
 

Leo

Well-known member
"Two weeks before Saigon fell in April 1975, a 32-year-old Joe Biden was among the senators summoned to the White House for a top-secret briefing on the crisis in Vietnam.

Though just a freshman, Biden gave the president a clear message: The situation in Vietnam was hopeless, and the United States should leave as quickly as possible, according to a column by Rowland Evans and Robert Novak at the time that described Biden’s interactions with then-President Gerald Ford."
- Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...155518-fdd5-11eb-ba7e-2cf966e88e93_story.html

mate (as you would say), learn a little about US civics before you start rambling. a freshman senator doesn't call the shots on anything. he was in the room and expressed an option that I assume you'd agree with.
 

hmg

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mate (as you would say), learn a little about US civics before you start rambling. a freshman senator doesn't call the shots on anything. he was in the room and expressed an option that I assume you'd agree with.

Read the article and weep more.
 
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