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luka

luka

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Lads can you help me out i cant find the tweets oliver craner has made under that corbyn post i know he definitely would have done some cos he knows how i assiduously promote everything he does like his own personal cheerleader but i just cant seem to find it at the moment. it probably says something like OMG this is my old friend Luke, he's a genius, this is the audiobook of one of his most famous works you should defintely check it out its amazing!!!
 
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luka said:
Lads can you help me out i cant find the tweets oliver craner has made under that corbyn post i know he definitely would have done some cos he knows how i assiduously promote everything he does like his own personal cheerleader but i just cant seem to find it at the moment. it probably says something like OMG this is my old friend Luke, he's a genius, this is the audiobook of one of his most famous works you should defintely check it out its amazing!!!
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I quote-tweeted you to all of my 177 followers you brat!
 
Mr. Tea

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It's just occurred to me that if Corbyn has become PM, we could have had an Anti-imperialism Tsar! What a wasted opportunity. 😑
 
Mr. Tea

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www.theguardian.com

YouGov sat on 2017 poll as it was too positive on Labour, claims ex-employee

Polling firm denies allegation it drew back from publishing some data showing Corbyn’s Labour doing well• Update: on 9 June 2022, Chris Curtis retracted his claim that the poll was suppressed [see footnote]
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Interesting - although worth noting that:

Curtis [...] said he believed the data was not published because the company was nervous about the consequences of being wrong, rather than because Zahawi had any hand in the situation.

“Given people are asking, I’m not saying that Nadhim directly had a hand in YouGov changing its results to suit Tory ends (as some have interpreted) but pointing to the general sense of panic YouGov had at the time which led to certain decisions,” he said.
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Not that I expect, for a nanosecond, that this will stop Corbynite Twitter deciding this was part of the universal anti-Corbyn conspiracy.

In fact, "YouGov is run by Tories so you can't trust anything they say" is a very common thing to hear in those parts, which is at odds with the fact that they were the only polling company to correctly predict a hung parliament in 2017, while all the others predicted the Tories would achieve an outright win with a comfortable majority.
 
C

catalog

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He blatantly should've won, something bad went down, we all knos it.

But, ironically, perhaps none of it would've mattered cos since covid it's basically been a socialist government.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Interesting - although worth noting that:

Not that I expect, for a nanosecond, that this will stop Corbynite Twitter deciding this was part of the universal anti-Corbyn conspiracy.

In fact, "YouGov is run by Tories so you can't trust anything they say" is a very common thing to hear in those parts, which is at odds with the fact that they were the only polling company to correctly predict a hung parliament in 2017, while all the others predicted the Tories would achieve an outright win with a comfortable majority.
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Zahawi's response that it was "just a joke" rather than denying it is pretty crap, in that case.

 
Mr. Tea

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It's an odd thing to say, but since Zahawi left the company in 2010, it would have been an empty threat even if made in earnest, wouldn't it?
 
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Mr. Tea

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They've spent more public money on the public than they'd like to, but come on. This is a ridiculous statement.
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Oh, I'd thought catalog was joking...

Edit: I mean, I have heard people say more or less that, but it's so daft I thought his comment was a pisstake.
 
Mr. Tea

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Why get involved then?
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No idea. From the Guardian article:

When reviewed by others in the YouGov political team, it was clear that the sample of people who watched the debate significantly over-represented Labour voters from the previous election.

“We take our responsibilities as a research organisation seriously and we could not have published a poll from a skewed sample that favoured any party. No serious polling organisation would have published this."
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So it seems there was actually a fairly major methodological problem with that particular study - if you ask a load of people who are statistically much more likely than average to be Labour voters what they think of Labour, it doesn't tell you much. Maybe Zahawi didn't want the company he co-founded to have its reputation damaged by a poor prediction even though he no longer worked there?

Conversely, this Curtis guy is now apparently working for Opinium, which is a rival polling company, so if he left YouGov on bad terms then he may be exaggerating what happened out of sour grapes. [Edit: although even he's saying it wasn't a deliberate attempt to harm Labour's chances.]
 
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Mr. Tea said:
Oh, I'd thought catalog was joking...

Edit: I mean, I have heard people say more or less that, but it's so daft I thought his comment was a pisstake.
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The only people I've heard say it until now have been Tories who think Boris is too soft and the party isn't conservative enough.
 
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