wild greens

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Seeing as @catalog pulled me up here are two more Dubz/Cream Cartel ones to balance out the post, just dont expect me to write anything more about it as not sure i can say much else about South London rap

15 left! I go away tomorrow so will try and get upto ten today and then it will have to wait a while for the 10
 

wild greens

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That Lex Luger sound was a proper game-changer when it first really started making an impact. The Memphis style had been ubiquitous at points before I think, that "southern rap" stereotype beat but these just started obliterating systems. Everything sounded the same really but it was just so bass-heavy, so rowdy, certain tunes dropped in clubs and it would just explode ha
The first Lex x Juicy J tape is good but it was this, the second one, where everything just seemed to coalesce. It's just such a mad tape, i could probably still do most verses to it (in private)
I had a work van at the time, and was this was the big tape for me tbh, had it on several times a week. I remember pulling up at a set of lights in Eltham, windows down, banging it out, getting a look from some woman like you fucking dickhead. Never wound a window up quicker.
What a tape

Ideally you want the No-DJ version of this but not sure how you'd get hold of it now.
 
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wild greens

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"I am the papermaker.. "

Blaps is from the classic Dizzee/Wiley Sidewinder mix obviously, the Warriors USF mix I think is better than the original, love the J Sweet remix and hard to figure out whether to put Gladiator or Heat in but ultimately I hate the film quote so Heat it is

More minimal bass and bleep grime, think Alias were ultimately the best at it. Some unbelievable MC performances over these over the years
 

wild greens

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Didnt always get on with DJ Screw tbh but i think I must have listened to this tape dozens of times, cant really listen to the Brandy tune at full speed anymore. Love TKO obviously a classic no matter what context
There's also an amazing version of Your Body's Calling in this but ultimately do i want to lash a nonce in here? No, not really.

Anyway, Late Night Fucking Your Bitch. What a tape
 

sus

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I've never really figured out if this lad is real or whether its one of these arch conceptual things (bandcamp says "Ed Wartts... used new technology to explore the mysterious dimensions of love, destiny, and divinity – the plane of his alter ego, Mensah. Composed in his home studios from 1982–2000") but this song is like some deep stoned dream or whatever, very good.

Robbed it from a dam-funk playlist, can't pretend i found it myself. Well, i could
this is lovely
 

wild greens

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Again this is probably out of sequence really but Ruff Sqwad as a collective concept are definitely top 100 but not top 10 for me, and only just realised i hadn't put them in so far

Really a lot of this 100 is kids trying to interpolate their influences in different directions, or trying to replicate vibes but not quite getting it right. Could well have lashed other parts of my record "collection" in but as it's gone on it, its surely the weird miscellany of London experiments that remain the most unique
I remember reading an interview with Rapid where he said they were all just trying to impress eachother with mad sounds really, at a time when a lot of these beats were hollow, empty, whatever
Whereas the ruff sqwad tunes were these massive sadface square wave things, dense, packed full of shit. Not saying it isnt the case with everyone- there's a lot of amazing music from around then anyway- but this stuff does still stand out as quite unique in the midst of really unique weird eras. So thats a compliment i think

I do think the grime era can be a bit over-mythologised sometimes, probably something i do too when you're talking to people who "weren't there" (fuck me neither was i really, not like i was sitting in Deja watching Mak10 is it), and a lot of this maybe hasn't aged that well, sounds a bit weird now, but its been good doing this and remembering stuff.

Can only think of 6 or 7 definites for the last 10 so might have to really pull something out of my arse for those ha
 

wild greens

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Seeing as there is plenty of nostalgia and ephemera in this 100, I think this is probably quite a fitting one so it can be crowbarred in.
I do like a lot of this sleepy doo wop era, even if it's fucking ancient now, and there's something eerie all these forgotten songs and dead people singing about lost love and forgotten moments etc
I thought this was one of those amazing lost songs that no-one was really onto when i first heard it, some beautiful little song that no-one knew about

Then i went into the youtube comments and found out it was from a lesbian striptease scene from the 2018 J-Lo stripper date rape heist film Hustlers, so no I didn't find some mysterious ghost song.

That makes it better tbh. Big tune
 

catalog

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Didnt always get on with DJ Screw tbh but i think I must have listened to this tape dozens of times, cant really listen to the Brandy tune at full speed anymore. Love TKO obviously a classic no matter what context
There's also an amazing version of Your Body's Calling in this but ultimately do i want to lash a nonce in here? No, not really.

Anyway, Late Night Fucking Your Bitch. What a tape
Had no idea these existed before, gonna check that tape out. Really like em.
 

catalog

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Again this is probably out of sequence really but Ruff Sqwad as a collective concept are definitely top 100 but not top 10 for me, and only just realised i hadn't put them in so far

Really a lot of this 100 is kids trying to interpolate their influences in different directions, or trying to replicate vibes but not quite getting it right. Could well have lashed other parts of my record "collection" in but as it's gone on it, its surely the weird miscellany of London experiments that remain the most unique
I remember reading an interview with Rapid where he said they were all just trying to impress eachother with mad sounds really, at a time when a lot of these beats were hollow, empty, whatever
Whereas the ruff sqwad tunes were these massive sadface square wave things, dense, packed full of shit. Not saying it isnt the case with everyone- there's a lot of amazing music from around then anyway- but this stuff does still stand out as quite unique in the midst of really unique weird eras. So thats a compliment i think

I do think the grime era can be a bit over-mythologised sometimes, probably something i do too when you're talking to people who "weren't there" (fuck me neither was i really, not like i was sitting in Deja watching Mak10 is it), and a lot of this maybe hasn't aged that well, sounds a bit weird now, but its been good doing this and remembering stuff.

Can only think of 6 or 7 definites for the last 10 so might have to really pull something out of my arse for those ha
Amazing. I always loved the vocal of RUDoubleF just cos of how young they all sound and how they're shouting over each other.
 

wild greens

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Seems mad that this came out when I was in Primary School really, feels like it has been around all of my life, but what do i really remember before this apart from Italia 90.
Think I was really lucky growing up with cable in the house in the 90s because the music channels not only gave us a proper education on what was really going on in the world- Yo MTV Raps was amazing to the 8/9 year old young wg- but also that that it meant there was a lot more longevity to songs as all it took was someone phoning up and requesting it on The Box and it was back in the world
This feels as close to a UK canon record as I can think of, tbh; I didn't even know there was another version (the real/original one at that) till I was in my twenties. Hear it at most weddings up north, even now, it was the second tune at my mate's wedding only last year, everyone knows this one.
But also it is close to 30 years old now and still bangs.
As a youngish pub and club DJ this was my party trick or go-to record, whatever; you could be playing in any venue and this would go off. I remember a pretty vivid rewind in Shoreditch years ago where a lad started banging the ceiling before even the piano dropped, just from the Bobby Brown "woah" ad-libs on the intro. Incredible tune

I will also give a shout to the K Klass single "Let Me Show You" as its what got the remix commission apparently & watching it in the late 90s it was quite inspirational to a young scouser thinking lets try and scam some money out of this music thing. Plus look at the clobber on the video

 

IdleRich

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I first got into a club when I was still in school, like a lot of people in the late 90s/early 2000s I guess. The Paradox; probably awful now thinking about it, but it was on Radio City on a Saturday night and in school listening to that was a big thing for us; a few of the girls had got in already because they always did. But- I had a growth spurt at 14 so the summer after I was 15 a couple of us lads tried to get in and somehow made it in. No tablets then, i didn't do any of that till I left school (the weekend after my last exam!) but we had enough for a couple of drinks and entry fee etc (fiver before 12), i got a grip of some woman, that was it I was hooked. The music was pretty shit in there, though, i don't have much nostalgia for it. But it's all the learning curve. I had decks from 14 so I was idolising all these hypothetical dj lads
A few years later I have left school and I'm on the sites for a bit, 16, but it dries up a bit as winter comes and I was a lazy cunt, not arsed, so I'm one of the first to get quietly binned- an uncle had done me a favour putting me on anyway really. But I had some good clothes, pretty face, end up working in Wade Smith in the run-up to christmas. It was on the downturn then I guess- went under a couple of years later- but that was one of the big independent clothes gaffs up north then, height of scouse fashion. Loads of girls and that, in my element, grafting away and getting nowhere. Loved it.
Anyway most of them were older than me, and some lads from south Liverpool who wouldn't be seen dead in the Paradox, listening to bugged out CDs in the stockroom, getting dragged out to Society, Garlands, G-Bar, the Barcelona, all that. I don't expect those things to mean much to you but you stepped away from the kid friendly world and into the proper clubs, grown and sexy vibes. Then onto Voodoo at the Masque which was a proper revelation to a little rat like me
Much later on when I left that job and got a "better" one we got into tablet overdrive and mainly went gaffs like the Sunrise, 150bpm oblivion, the beak started coming out at the after-parties, it got dark all that. Lots of mates starting to sell beak and that, not good buying off lads you know. Tick till payday

Anyway... a good raving girl in there, Sue something or other, said about "Intro"- it's that tune that's always on if you get into Barcelona about 12, and that felt like the realest thing I've ever heard at the time. She'd just bought the CD single, played it on the shop stereo. So vivid; just coming up on the tablet, that phasing effect on the Jets' "Crush On You" sample, the huge subs (probably tiny now).

When i was 19/20, after all this, I started coming down south and getting onto what was going on down here, and that was a different world again, though I wasn't really a part of it till much later; I kind of dismissed a lot of this then, and for years, which is stupid really, but you have different ideas throughout life eh
I'd forgotten what that tune was called... but all comes back when you mention Crush On You.
 

linebaugh

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This thread is really tasteful. Perfect balance of expected and unexpected selections. This is key to a tasteful list.
 

linebaugh

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Gus will say thats crap. Thats its all facade, that his is the only genuine list. But his critics will say isnt there elegance in the facade? That the auto biographical route is just a cop out? Is he just afraid to fail?
 
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wild greens

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It's not really a top 100, i have missed loads of stuff out that actually means things to me- that is pretty boring really- just posting tunes from a very specific period of uk raving, some incidental history, the odd bit of introspection. The idea of superiority or greater value is passe really, all means of expression bring forth a duality within the art and the consumer. Some are just born of night-time scenes, some from our wan aglow moments before silvery light.
Who has not asked himself at some time or other: am I a monster or is this what it means to be a person?

In this vein, is Flirta D the 8th best thing I've ever listened to? No. But i forgot to include him somewhere and this can also be about the Tim & Barry street freestyle scenario. This has accelerated culturally over the years, and has emerged from scruffy street scenarios- why is Flirta MCing outside a park in Brent- to the grandiose full gloss of annotated Daily Duppys, where the brand is now the vessel etc. Immersive radio crew culture long since usurped by freestyle as the mode of the individual, the DVD mixtape era as forebearer of youtube ubiquity
Really the culture of oneaway freestyles and radio dubplates are quite antiquated now, especially in the age of MCs as streaming commodity; i had the Flirta D "Hoe" tune as a 128kbps mp3 from msn i think, or possibly onthedecks or bluetooth, and even then I'm not sure this was an original, it could have been a radio rip, who knows.The Flirta D bassline track is one of two done on the same day, both in the same clothes and in front of the same fence, though this is better.
Ive put another couple of good ones from this time in because why not, i always loved the Movado one, Riko is Riko, etc
It is an anachronism to suggest that this sort of stuff points to a naivety, ofc; it is just the point where technology hadn't really caught up with the ideas, the gloss had yet to turn up really, though we're getting closer to it at this point

Flirta probably is a relic now, mind; hard to see a new emergence of MCs making mortal kombat noises over dark garage becoming an in-vogue moment. There's loads of those novelty MCs over the years, sometimes all you needed was a one-line flow or a strange bark and on you could go, rewinds, bookings

Lost my train of thought.
 
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