No Club Scene for Old Men

[shakahislop]

Old men BANNED

 

[0bleak]

I'm so pissed. It's not even fuckin' funny.
As someone with a "hidden" disability that makes it hard enough to do a lot of even simple things, I'll trade my life for virtually any lesbian, "qtnb" and "bipoc" person because those are the only things that really fuckin' matter right?!
and just because you're lesbian, "qtnb" and "bipoc" that doesn't mean you're not just as shitty as everyone else and wouldn't give someone a hard time or make assumptions - fuck right off with this bullshit

 

[Corpsey]

Can you not just say you're gay

They'd see me coming from a mile away, farting into my cargo shorts

 

[Corpsey]

"vernacular gives credence to"

this is that goldsmiths chat

that arts council funding secured lingo

 

[dilbert1]

Prioritizing space for those people I guess doesn’t necessitate limiting the amount of cis hetero women around? Which if I know their kind well enough, someone’s insecure boyfriend is paying $50 over the door price for that premium global club DJ vernacular only to be side eyed into oblivion

 

[dilbert1]

The common refrain is “its not for you” which is totally fair enough, but I wonder if its considered rude or problematic that I interpret this as “I’m not missing out on anything.” But that’s just cos I’m a music snob not socially reactionary

 

[0bleak]

Can you not just say you're gay

I don't like to lie. I have a feeling they might pick up on it anyway.
Besides, this cishetero man partied on a weekly basis along with some other cisheteros every week at a gay club decades ago, and no one ever had any issues, and I didn't throw a fit when lesbians pinched my ass or gay guys groped me.

 

[Corpsey]

well you're mistaken, since those lesbians and gay guys now owe you reparations

 

[Corpsey]

i keep wanting to make jokes about this but they're all landing me squarely in jeremy clarkson territory

it's a great cultural achievement really to make those sorts of jokes gammon-only, in my lifetime

 

[Corpsey]

i can even use the word 'cis' without ladling it with sarcasm these days, i think

 

[Corpsey]

but only because i'm told to

there must be millions of us out there, in every generation, the people who've been told not to be naughty and know that it's true but still faintly resent it, in spite of themselves

 

[Corpsey]

and what's more, know that they've been poisoned in infancy with cultural attitudes that are now considered contemptibly retrograde

and resent that too

luckily, death will solve all these problems

 

[0bleak]

I interpret this as “I’m not missing out on anything.” But that’s just cos I’m a music snob not socially reactionary

You get why this kind of stuff might make someone like me see red though, right?

 

[shakahislop]

Can you not just say you're gay

They'd see me coming from a mile away, farting into my cargo shorts

i think you can and they won't ask any questions.

 

[Corpsey]

make sure you say it in the voice of kenneth williams, though

 

[Corpsey]

i was hoping it would be an advert stipulating NOBODY UNDER 30 or something, which they could actually enforce with an ID system

 

[dilbert1]

Yeah shaka bit of a red herring. No Club for Old Gay Men

 

[dilbert1]

You get why this kind of stuff might make someone like me see red though, right?

Yeah, disabilities aren’t considered chic and radical like queerness is apparently. But I think when there is discrimination at the door and a thematic priority on this or that identity feeling celebrated or “seen,” the music’s gonna be whatever and the event will be even more of a photo op than your average night out at these things is typically

 

[shakahislop]

the idea of using a ludicrous entrance fee to keep a specific type of person out of the club is pretty confrontational. there's something about the contradiction of needing to be so careful about saying anything at all about these identity things in everyday life, and then seeing someone do something like this so openly.

that said knowing the club it's probably the only way of having a friday night party which is actually for and attended by lesbians and so on. it's pretty reasonable to want a place to dance for a specific delineated group of people. if there isn't some kind of proper discouragement everyone else will show up. friday nights at nowadays can be a bit annoying sometimes coz there's sometimes a bit of a normie element who bring more of an alcohol aggro vibe with them.

and i mean it's in ridgewood-bushwick, probably one of the world's largest concentrations of trans, non-binary, queer people on the planet.

given that you can go to nowadays any other thursday, friday, saturday or sunday every week of the year, it's not like there's a shortage of opportunities. i'm seeing our lad kode9 tonight.

it was a bit annoying when they had Mala on and they said they only really wanted black people to come

 

[shakahislop]

there must be millions of us out there, in every generation, the people who've been told not to be naughty and know that it's true but still faintly resent it, in spite of themselves

well it's annoying having restrictions on what you can say without there being some backlash. probably overall a good thing if you look at what everything was like even a decade ago. but it's still annoying. i think the lines of acceptability have settled down a bit. for a while it felt like they were shifting, felt like you were on unsettled ground. jokes suffer especially i think coz it's harder when you've got to be cautious. even if you're well-meaning