shakahislop
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i have an Indian friend here who told me that he got shouted at by someone for holding the door open for a lady. that's the funniest one. thinking that you're doing something nice and getting it in the neck.
No Club Scene for Old Men
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- a cowshed in the pennines a fedora and football scarf acid croaking rainforest baggy bumhole due to heroin crystallized diarrhea his outfit screams optimism loose flappy bumhole marquee flapping matching hawaiian shirt and shorts combination rui da silva shag a stranger in a tent socially distanced outdoor sit-down brunches swaying about a bit with a pint the parisian fun police trench-foot you expecting good weather mate?
shakahislop
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the reason that all of that stuff has worked is the same reason that it's annoying to be around, it's that the reaction is unusually forceful and impolite
Corpsey
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“The first thing the intellect does with an object is to class it along with something else. But any object that is infinitely important to us and awakens our devotion feels to us also as if it must be sui generis and unique. Probably a crab would be filled with a sense of personal outrage if it could hear us class it without ado or apology as a crustacean, and thus dispose of it. "I am no such thing," it would say; "I am MYSELF, MYSELF alone.”
0bleak
A Liniment's Evil Work
exactly!
0bleak
A Liniment's Evil Work
I have an idea. Instead of making things exclusionary, make them inclusionary.
Like, make it known from the start that an event or club is queer from the start.
For example, we didn't have to worry about aggro normies or skins showing up at the gay club because they wouldn't be caught dead there in the first place.
dilbert1
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shakahislop
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i think for this one it wouldn't work. people would show up regardless. it's just the nature of that club on friday nights. one of the nice things about nowadays is that they basically let anyone in, there's not much of a door policy. you can get thrown out easily enough if you're being a dick though
shakahislop
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i've been there on a couple of friday nights where there's a decent contingent of people who behave like they're in a lower east side booze and try to shag someone club, it's mad how much it changes the atmosphere. people looking at each other a bit more suspiciously. less grace.
dilbert1
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I still think the thing that stands out on that insta flyer is the fact cis hetero women slip under the radar. There’s definitely a market for the type that flatter themselves as first rate allies, and I don’t see how loads of them turning up wouldn’t also take up space that could otherwise be available for LGBTQNB etc. Also I don’t see how soft banning cis hetero dudes helps with the BIPOC emphasis.
But I always come back around to, who cares, something this explicitly socially policed is going to be a performative bore, and if the emphasis on representation rivals that on music then let them enjoy that
But I always come back around to, who cares, something this explicitly socially policed is going to be a performative bore, and if the emphasis on representation rivals that on music then let them enjoy that
0bleak
A Liniment's Evil Work
Another reason this angers me is because it's another reflection of the society at large - you mainly hear about women, people of color, and lgbtq+.
I've also found that if a disabled person is included, they still also tick one of the above boxes because we don't want to have any empathy for white guys.
and also, I guess because it's not possible for women, people of color, and lgbtq+ to be as shitty as everyone else.
Now I expect someone to tell me that this is all bullshit that at their company there is a strong focus on disability in the DEI department in their workplace, but I can only go on what I see, hear and experience (meaning that this focus on identity started a number of years ago, there have been instances of people being hostile to me online or in real life just for being a white cishetero (not that they even asked - hypocrites)).
vershy versh
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Apparently some people do this on job applications now. You can just lie about being bisexual, no one's gonna push you on it and it gets you through the initial filter. You can claim to be nonbinary too and go unchallenged without having to alter anything about yourself or your behaviour beyond maybe asking that people address you using they/them pronouns. Those two seem the easiest to game.
Depends who has the disabilities. It doesn't seem to count for much if you're a straight, white guy, but if you're anyone else then it does. Look at the way some people stack them up in their social media bio.
There are people who try to frame being fat in similar terms too, stuff like this...
"Otis argued that, while Holiday's rhetoric reconfigured the fat body as active toward resignifying fat as fit, liberation of White and performatively healthy fat bodies like hers can marginalize chronically-ill and disabled fat bodies and/or fat bodies of color."
dilbert1
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Who’s going out of their way to hire bisexuals? I guess you’re referring to employers having to fulfill a quota? Funny how the rule that employers can’t discriminately hire based on sex race etc. and affirmative action can exist at the same time, although I guess in the US that’s maybe changing with a recent SCOTUS ruling
Yeah and that may equate to more opportunity or eyes as a “global club DJ,” but on a normal social level I think more and more you’re kind of outing yourself as a pain in the ass when you do that sort of thing, or at the very least its seen as tacky
william_kent
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vershy versh
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I don't think anyone is. The point is it's the easiest way to lie yourself out of the straight, white man category and apply for jobs looking for diverse hires.
yeah but it's all middle class shite.
It's purposefully designed to only attract the right speaking poc and the right speaking queer. that's the hidden subtext.
i mean, i was going to see dj stingray at fabric (a completely 'normie' if you will, club) a few years but then saw the ticket prices were £33 . that's robbery!
and there you are, you are ensnared by their ideology, so what's the point?
shakahislop
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what's the point of what. going out for a dance?