Juke

[0bleak]

@Corpsey - what do you think of the stuff yyaldrin just posted?
to me, it has a much more interesting sound palette than most footwork, and reading your post about boredom w/ jungle in the 2025 thread, i was curious if you would like if someone did the same with jungle?

 

[Corpsey]

The first one doesn't sound super interesting to me, it's like a trad juke tune fed through a distortion unit (I know you're into distortion). Also it doesn't seem designed for a dancefloor—which, fair enough, but that's not what I'm interested in. The third one is more dancey.

I'm sure people have done similar things with jungle since the 90s (e.g. the aphex/squarepusher stuff that uses jungle breaks and splices them to glitchy sounds).

It's an interesting question — I guess with the jungle stuff I had in mind the essential undergirding engine of jungle: chopped up breaks and bass, a focus on the dancefloor (not on being 'avant garde'), but with different samples from the old days i.e. less of the cliched dub samples, more sampling of contemporary pop/RNB/rap sounds and vocals.

So something that is still essentially jungle but which someone in 1993 couldn't have made cos the sample sources weren't around.

As for juke, I guess it hasn't changed much since its heyday really but I do think some of the chicago producers, at least, are plugged in to contemporary rnb/rap and feed those samples into the juke machine.

Like I said, maybe these new jungle producers ARE doing this and I've not heard it. They're more concerned, it seems to me, with reverently replicating the same sound palette as of old.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I guess with the jungle stuff I had in mind the essential undergirding engine of jungle: chopped up breaks and bass, a focus on the dancefloor (not on being 'avant garde'), but with different samples from the old days i.e. less of the cliched dub samples, more sampling of contemporary pop/RNB/rap sounds and vocals.

This is what I used to really like about early 2010s Jersey Club, Jackin and Funky - every single big pop/rap/r&b hit would get sampled and remixed, and often improved upon, just as UK Garage used to do so well in its heyday. I'm sure this still goes on in various scenes I'm not aware about, but I doubt that the source material is as good nowadays though.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Wrong thread, but is there any new jungle producers sampling contemporary dancehall - your Skillibengs and Valiants and Intences (or even older stuff like Vybz Kartel or Alkaline)?

 

[Benny Bunter]

UK music is in such a terrible state isn't it?

 

[Benny Bunter]

From dim memory of when I was into juke, I used to like stuff like Rashad and Traxman the best, who tended to sample much older soul and jazz and rnb records, more of a crate digging thing in the vein of golden age hip-hop, which suited the music better imo.
Juke was a lot more conservative in that way compared to early 2010s jersey club, which would sample absolutely anything that was popular at the time, no matter how tacky. I suppose it's cos they had an older Chicago tradition to draw from than NJ did.

 

[yyaldrin]

some of those nondi_ tracks reminds me of "dj mc - i'm feeling high", one of my favourite footwork tracks, i don't know why i like it so much i think it's that bass sound that comes in at 0:36 that sounds like woomwoomwoomwoom, woomwoomwoomwoom



here's some people dancing to it



and here's a track by nondi_ that has a similar sound like that dj mc track

 

[yyaldrin]

Cartoon Physics/The Revenge of the Tangible

 

[Benny Bunter]

Skimmed through a few recent jersey tracks this afternoon and they're still using the same squeaky bedsprings and wacky cartoon SpongeBob samples they were 12 years ago, it's just generally faster and more distorted.

 

[0bleak]

Wrong thread, but is there any new jungle producers sampling contemporary dancehall - your Skillibengs and Valiants and Intences (or even older stuff like Vybz Kartel or Alkaline)?

how about if it was more of an equal mix of both or otherwise it would be more like one of the other with just some bits of the the other style here and there, and then it's kind of back to the same problem
also avoiding amen choppage or that wouldn't leave much room for the vocals to really come through since they're kind of chill in a way to my ears

also kind of a rough draft - bass may need to be higher or lower (trying to get an equal amount of both)

 

[version]

This is what I used to really like about early 2010s Jersey Club, Jackin and Funky - every single big pop/rap/r&b hit would get sampled and remixed, and often improved upon, just as UK Garage used to do so well in its heyday. I'm sure this still goes on in various scenes I'm not aware about, but I doubt that the source material is as good nowadays though.

Got a Tim Reaper mix on atm and he's playing a jungle thing that samples 'Million Dollar Baby'.

4:36

 

[dilbert1]

Does anyone know the Myspace footwork era tune that has a sample of what I'm pretty sure is Charlie Murphy saying "whoop a n****'s ass like he stole somethin" "like he stole somethin, like he stole somethin..." ????

 

[IdleRich]

From dim memory of when I was into juke, I used to like stuff like Rashad and Traxman the best, who tended to sample much older soul and jazz and rnb records, more of a crate digging thing in the vein of golden age hip-hop, which suited the music better imo.
Juke was a lot more conservative in that way compared to early 2010s jersey club, which would sample absolutely anything that was popular at the time, no matter how tacky. I suppose it's cos they had an older Chicago tradition to draw from than NJ did.

Is Traxman really juke though? I love this one with Deeon which is basically high nrg camp to the max, do they realise it sounds so gay? I mean Deeon (RIP) was a born again Christian by this point and I don't think TM fucks with the oscar meyer weiner....