Dylan: I just don't get it, and I never will

luka

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If Rachel Reid is serious about kickstarting the economy the first thing she needs to do is ban office jobs
 
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0bleak

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there's also a fairly dystopian version of it where you don't see the staff. you order on a machine and i think it pops out a chute or something. you don't see the workers at all. im pretty sure that's correct and im not making it up.

Have you heard of automats? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4554690/quotes "In 1953, the company served 2,206,000 beef pies, 1,427,000 chicken pies, 10,652,000 dessert pies, 3,388,000 hamburgers, 4,886,000 chop sirloins, 6,527,000 loaves of bread, 314,000 gallons of baked beans, and 2,355,000 pounds a macaronis. That's a lot of food - and we were feed 800,000 people a day."
 

luka

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yes. jh prynne said he studied in america for 6 months and never talked to anyone, eating exclusively from automats.
 

luka

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PRYNNE
I was in America on this cracked-up studentship. It was a curious *affair *because it was rather grand, and I got it after some complicated and *demanding interviews—but it didn’t do very much in the way of income. I was impoverished as a student in America. I couldn’t travel, I couldn’t buy books, I couldn’t do anything very much. I didn’t have any money, which suited me fine, but I led a very isolated life. Popping in and out of the library and doing my stuff, I had a chance to assimilate some of my previous educational experiences and to reflect on what I was going to do if I was going to do any more writing and what kind of writing it was going to be. Grave isolation was quite significantly useful for that purpose.
I used to have my meals in an automat. I liked automats because they were completely impersonal. You just opened the small door and took out the plate and that was what you ate, you know. I remember thinking, I have rather few personal connections in this world. How far through this world could I go without exchanging a spoken word? Without any force, you know, just not actually speaking when you didn’t need to. My record was two and a half weeks. And this automat was one way of dispensing with chatter in mealtime. So I did have an isolated life. It was useful to me. I enjoyed it well.
 

DLaurent

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I don't listen to Dylan but came home from a house party in Ilford and put on The Time Are A-Changing, in particular the Ballad of Hollis Brown and it was like an epiphany. Suddenly it clicked, but I still have no idea who Timothy Chalomet is. Maybe they're both good and it will take me years to realise, when I'm in the mood.
 
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