what does trump want?
luka
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you think they'll lock him in a cupboard?
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
he'll have to do the passport check at the airport and then they'll say sorry no country existing under the name ukraine
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
Then haaaa psyche him and put him on a plane to Azerbaijan
IdleRich
IdleRich
Apart from the people who did
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I think it meets at least 12 of Eco's 14 criteria:
Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism
Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?
www.openculture.com
One major difference is that fascism has historically required a strong state, whereas Trump, Musk and the rest seem to be intent on shredding the state to bits. That said, I don't see them defunding the police or ICE any time soon.
shakahislop
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yeah maybe. but surely you misdescribe it when you use a word that describes something from the 1930s. it’s new it needs new vocabulary. does the historical parallel get us any closer to understanding. or is it tied into internet debates where everyone uses it to de-normalize what’s going on now / say that it’s bad serious severeI think it meets at least 12 of Eco's 14 criteria:
Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism
Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?
One major difference is that fascism has historically required a strong state, whereas Trump, Musk and the rest seem to be intent on shredding the state to bits. That said, I don't see them defunding the police or ICE any time soon.
shakahislop
Well-known member
this is a totally new configuration of power that is rapidly right now over the past month becoming the dominant force in the world I don’t think I’m exaggerating
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well do you have a better suggestion?
I dunno, I think you're being a bit fussy here. The thing that a given word describes can change over time, can't it. A car from 100 years is pretty different from a car made today, but they have enough properties in common that it's reasonable to use the same word.
shakahislop
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I'm writing bars on my phone in a file called Mr Tea War Dub
version
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If this report's true and isn't some faction within the US government feeding the press disinformation, it's increasingly difficult to see any possibility other than Trump, or someone in his inner circle, being compromised in some fashion.
www.theguardian.com
A recent memo at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa) set out new priorities for the agency, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security and monitors cyber threats against US critical infrastructure. The new directive set out priorities that included China and protecting local systems. It did not mention Russia.
A person familiar with the matter who spoke to the Guardian on the condition of anonymity said analysts at the agency were verbally informed that they were not to follow or report on Russian threats, even though this had previously been a main focus for the agency.
Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats
Recent incidents indicate US is no longer characterizing Russia as a cybersecurity threat, marking a radical departure: ‘Putin is on the inside now’
www.theguardian.com
version
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He hasn't, really. The Democrats have been talking about him and Russia since 2016. He's got about 30% of a nation going along with it, although that's clearly enough for it to work.
version
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The more of this stuff he appears to do, the fewer and fewer explanations there are beyond him being an asset. What other explanation is there for instructing the security services to just completely ignore threats from one of the two other global superpowers? I get that he supposedly wants a better relationship with Russia, but you can have a better relationship and still be somewhat pragmatic.
version
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Here's another one, with the obvious caveat that you have to take everything with a pinch of salt and it's the New York Times.
www.nytimes.com
The Trump administration is targeting government officials who had been flagging foreign interference in U.S. elections, despite ongoing concerns that adversaries are stoking political and social divisions by spreading propaganda and disinformation online, current and former government officials said.
The administration has already reassigned several dozen officials working on the issue at the Federal Bureau of Investigation and forced out others at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, part of the Department of Homeland Security, they said.
The cuts have focused on people who were not only combating false content online but also working on broader safeguards to protect elections from cyberattacks or other attempts to disrupt voting systems. In last year’s election, the teams tracked and publicized numerous influence operations from Russia, China and Iran to blunt their impact on unsuspecting voters.
Trump Dismantles Government Fight Against Foreign Influence Operations
Dozens of employees who had been working to fight foreign interference in U.S. elections have been reassigned or forced out, according to current and former officials.