An Emergent Order

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0bleak

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thanks - there does seem to be kind of experimental/ambient/alogrithmic/idm/fiddly stuff - but I'd really like to hear more in a context of stuff the average person likes - like bangin' beats or even something approaching pop "songs" etc.
I like a lot of what Sote has done, however.
 
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thirdform

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0bleak said:
thanks - there does seem to be kind of experimental/ambient/alogrithmic/idm/fiddly stuff - but I'd really like to hear more in a context of stuff the average person likes - like bangin' beats or even something approaching pop "songs" etc.
I like a lot of what Sote has done, however.
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Sote has a good sense for the dastgah system which is like the makam/maqam system in turkish and arabic music. Modal.

A lot of the youtube/bandcamp microtonal guys do it just because. Which isn't something I want to knock but it reminds me something someone said that really if you just want to play weird notes with no tonal centre you don't necessarily need to go quartertonal or 53tet.

imo people should though, as a rule. even if initially it seems pointless the possibilities are endless.
 
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germaphobian said:
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A lot of this sort of thing seems to get into Frank Zappa territory, a combination of virtuosity, experimentation and eccentricity I find grating. The absence of that in Autechre is one of the things which puts them miles above guys like Venetian Snares and Squarepusher. They don't have that irritating wackiness or 'look how technical I am' to their thing. There are people I like who fit into that category - Pynchon, Buckethead, Beefheart - but it's despite the irritating eccentricities. Something in their output allows me to look past those irritations.
 
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thirdform said:
It's high time you realised that You're a spineless leech who’d sell your own mother and kids into slavery for a crumb of attention, that is, if you could even learn how to copulate to begin with.

even someone like me (who doesn't take your temper tantrums or political views at all seriously) gets sick of jousting with you when you are nothing but an insufferable slovenly cunt. we could have a decent conversation but you are incapable of controlling your tendancies to ruin every thread you post in. I think you misconstrued freedom of speech with freedom to demand in primary school.
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What is the empirical evidence for cultural materialism?
 
Murphy

Murphy

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So this thing covers art, politics and whether they’re devolving (or not) because a new emergent meta-structure of corrupted media/money/deep state/ai is mutating culture into new forms - marvel’s meta-humans - (or not?) whereby revolution could be actualised as competing nations and blocs shift the pendulums?

With Marxism and audio examples of where the frontline is?

I know, deep genius levels
 
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version

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Murphy said:
So this thing covers art, politics and whether they’re devolving (or not) because a new emergent meta-structure of corrupted media/money/deep state/ai is mutating culture into new forms - marvel’s meta-humans - (or not?) whereby revolution could be actualised as competing nations and blocs shift the pendulums?

With Marxism and audio examples of where the frontline is?

I know, deep genius levels
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Something like that. We're trying to find/build the new meta-narrative, if there's one at all.
 
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version

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shakahislop said:
it's so weird that version compared j h prynne to alien 3 earlier in the thread. he said something about how much closer to God alien3 is. he was getting quite spiritual
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