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Bit of a daywalker myself.
Pro-Life Vigilantism
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Bit of a daywalker myself.
Mr. Tea
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Mr. Tea
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Lol @ "clever, intellectual"
mixed_biscuits
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The National Socialists targeted the disabled but, by your criterion, that wasn't a genocide.
mixed_biscuits
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Well you're the one who is happy with all the Down's babies being bumped off!
It's totally disingenuous for abortion fans to pretend that the picture isn't as crude as the above. Because it is: weaker babies to be born into poorer families are more likely to be aborted; no surprise there, as the abortion movement was the eugenics movement rebranded.
Mr. Tea
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They killed people, though. Like, actual people.
But they were only low-quality ones, like the kind you think we have too many of.
mixed_biscuits
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Oh I see, if you can't see them they're not people, so people in a belly are not people. But you couldn't see the disabled people the Nazis killed either, because that was before you were born.
You don't seem to understand that I can't be pro eugenics if I'm against the means by which eugenics is done these days.
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This seems like an ill omen.
thepalmspringspost.com
One dead, four injured after explosion outside reproductive center in Downtown Palm Springs; police and FBI investigating as an act of terror ⋆ The Palm Springs Post
An FBI official described the law enforcement response as "probably one of the largest bombing investigations that we've had in Southern California."
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I think the suspect was the only fatality.
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Just seen a couple claims this bloke wasn't actually a pro-life guy and in fact described himself as a "pro-mortalist".
bnonews.com
Bomber of California fertility clinic identified, described himself as pro-mortalist
The bomber at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, has been identified as a 25-year-old man who left an online manifesto in which he described himself as a pro-mortalist, saying people didn’t give consent to exist. The suspect is Guy Edward Bartkus, a 25-year-old man from Twentynine...
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mixed_biscuits
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Well, of course. Pro-life means pro life.Just seen a couple claims this bloke wasn't actually a pro-life guy and in fact described himself as a "pro-mortalist".
Bomber of California fertility clinic identified, described himself as pro-mortalist
The bomber at a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, has been identified as a 25-year-old man who left an online manifesto in which he described himself as a pro-mortalist, saying people didn’t give consent to exist. The suspect is Guy Edward Bartkus, a 25-year-old man from Twentynine...
It's a real societal cock-up though: all the murders should be inside the clinic, not outside. And they certainly should not involve consent!
mixed_biscuits
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His manifesto is a sort of Dissensus distillate, essence of leftard error. In that sense he is pro-choice adjacent and, in declaring "war" on pro-life (by bombing an IVF clinic, natch), he in fact far outstrips them. Pro-choicers wish they could have this much disregard for human life.
In fact, he had pro-choicers in his crosshairs too, as they make the fatal mistake of giving birth to at least some of the people they conceive, and thus consigning these unfortunates to the unwanted fate of having to live. Something the bomber was very much against because life is pain maaaan!
This is mixed__biscuits for Channel 4 news, Palm Springs. Back to you, Cathy.
In fact, he had pro-choicers in his crosshairs too, as they make the fatal mistake of giving birth to at least some of the people they conceive, and thus consigning these unfortunates to the unwanted fate of having to live. Something the bomber was very much against because life is pain maaaan!
This is mixed__biscuits for Channel 4 news, Palm Springs. Back to you, Cathy.
hmg
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"Thank you. So, what you're saying is..."
GhostofKinski
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This is new one to me, Anti-Natalist?
yeah, but that guy is at the much more extreme end - it's not representative of someone like me, but it's a very unpopular view even at the less extreme ends (i basically never bring it up, and certainly not to family that have or had children), and I don't need to get dragged for it for here so you can message me if you want to know more.
altho I think my mom "gets it"
she said to me one time, completely out of the blue, unprompted, that she thinks the reason I never had children was that I've had it rough and didn't want to take the risk of bringing someone else into the world like that
i mean, yeah, that's def part of it
GhostofKinski
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I think I do too. There’s too many F’kin people on the planet.
I didn’t know it was a THING that had a movement or armed wing. I just thought it was an opinion. Like: pretend there’s something called Detroit Pizza, and it had a violent faction.
Murphy
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have to leave room for parental regret, bit like tripper’s regret but they’re alive, shitting everywhere, flooding a table with piss just as you fasten a fresh nappy - who needs that
and they look like you too - who needs that
(joking loving family)
but in all seriousness, responsibilities never abait, ever, no glove no love = we are expecting a daughter in late summer
and they look like you too - who needs that
(joking loving family)
but in all seriousness, responsibilities never abait, ever, no glove no love = we are expecting a daughter in late summer
there's that, but it's more like (quoting from google ai):
"Antinatalism is a philosophical perspective that argues procreation is morally wrong or unjustifiable. Antinatalists believe that bringing sentient beings into existence is a harm, often citing reasons like the inevitable suffering and death in life, and the lack of consent when someone is born. Some antinatalists believe it would be better if no one had children ever again.
Here's a more detailed look:
- Core Argument:
Antinatalists argue that having children is inherently harmful because of the inherent suffering and potential for suffering in human life.
- Lack of Consent:
A key argument is that individuals are born without their consent, meaning they don't get to choose whether or not they come into existence.
- Ethical Considerations:
Antinatalists question the ethical implications of bringing new lives into a world where suffering and death are inevitable.
- Not Limited to Humans:
While often focused on human procreation, antinatalism can extend to other sentient beings, arguing that bringing any being into existence is a harm.
- Variations in Belief:
Not all antinatalists hold the same views. Some believe it's always wrong to procreate, while others hold more nuanced views.
- Examples:
David Benatar, a prominent anti-natalist philosopher, argues that it would be better if no one had children."