we were talking about this issue too and for us it is the sense of the sacred (i know we were denying that we were a corporate entity a couple of days ago but it's becoming harder to maintain the pretense.)Luka's fear of sullen crudeness is fascinating. I kinda want to explore this but it's not the place.
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Patty, go for round 2
and i think that that too is bound up with attitudes towards the female (but go a level higher, before that bifurcation, and it become hermaphroditic)