Jacob Rees-Mogg

Matthew

FKA Woebot
as some (most) people on this board know i went to the same school as david cameron etc. [not] sorry if this comes as an horrific shock.

in fact i personally knew (some of them very well) the people in the george osmond bullingdon photo. it does turn the stomach quite a lot.

at the start i didn't like cameron as prime minister.

i hated all those years of endless headlines about eton college. in fact i remember it as quite a quaint old-fashioned institution with a very heavy emphasis on moral duty - arrogance and snobbery were frowned on. not cool. big money was not heavily in evidence. most of the pupils were from "nouveau poor" or fading aristocracy - upper middle classes on their uppers. lots of slightly mad and very bohemian families. children of the kind of etonians who were hanging out with the rolling stones. but MAINLY i suppose quite stupid and boring people on autopilot for life - who would unthinkingly repeat their own existence on their children ad infinitum...

the eton the newspapers describe - of oligarchs and royalty. that came with the princes and most especially with the headmaster tony little who relished the truly horrible rich ethos. but tbh i don't know if even that is a fair reflection of what it's like nowadays. BUT the fees are something 10x higher and the PR is curdled - so i'm probably right in saying that...

i DID come round to cameron. i know his wife - who was art school with me - and i think he's a sincere and genuinely reconstructed guy. certainly a bit of of a silly ass - BUT NOT A BAD PERSON. trying to do his best in fact. osbourne maybe made of weaker stuff.

who was there when i was at school was jacob rees-mogg. his house was beside mine. people used to come to my room and throw wet loo-roll out of the window at him as he entered that building below. jacob used to walk around, a rod for a back, with an umbrella at all times. i think he used to have a poster of margaret thatcher on his wall. at all times he was robotic and spoke to people (not arrogantly as such) as though they were infantile. honestly i don't think he would be a healthy choice for the kind of person to be prime minister.
 
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droid

Beast of Burden
i DID come round to cameron. i know his wife - who was art school with me - and i think he's a sincere and genuinely reconstructed guy. certainly a bit of of a silly ass - BUT NOT A BAD PERSON.
That will be a comfort when the ration books arrive.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
i DID come round to cameron. i know his wife - who was art school with me - and i think he's a sincere and genuinely reconstructed guy. certainly a bit of of a silly ass - BUT NOT A BAD PERSON. trying to do his best in fact. osbourne maybe made of weaker stuff.
I don't understand how he could be viewed as anything but a callous, despicable wretch? And arguably the worst and most destructive PM Britain has ever had (granted, he may be beaten to the post on that one).

Bemused.
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
a rod for a back.... at all times he was robotic and spoke to people (not arrogantly as such) as though they were infantile
Character armour. Weird how one man's neurosis may be about to destroy the whole country. If only we'd stuck him in the orgone box when he was tiny.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
That video of him actually made me quite sad, 'cos you can still just about still hear the child's last gargles before the weight of family/duty/repression/class drowns him for good.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
I liked Matt's post because it treats people as people, rather than structural symbols, which goes against the grain of "theory" - primarily Marxist and all its post-constellations.

This whole era is Napoleanic - in a debased way. We need to take people seriously because they are affecting history, as they have always, actually, done. This is a conservative view of the world, but in a particular way: suspicion of systems, ideologies, utopias. 18/19th Century Conservatism and Toryism, as opposed to the visions on neoliberalism and socialism.

Not staking a claim here, just observing.

However: Thatcher and Labour '45 were much more complex and conflicted and compromised than their supposed heirs, Corbyn and Rees-Mogg. These guys are cartoon characters.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Food banks are more controversial and complicated than people realise, although I think we have argued about this before.
 

droid

Beast of Burden
The great man of history rears its ugly head again. Arguably never true and definitely not in an infinitely more complex era of interlocking and layered emergent systems which we barely even comprehend.
 

thirdform

Well-known member
yeah but everyone is nice. It's just that like all things that niceness is selective.

Truly malignant people are rare.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
As much as I brand tories devils for not giving a shit about poor people, not a day goes by when I don't walk past multiple homeless people on the way to work with close to zero care in the world - I might think about them for thirty seconds before I completely forget about them. Moments later I'm buying my overpriced imported coffee and browsing Amazon on my smartphone.

From their POV I'm Jacob Rees-Mogg. In fact, perhaps more contemptible, with my half-hearted liberal guilt.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
I'd like to know more about Woebot's Eton experiences, btw.

I'd also like to know David Cameron's 100 greatest records ever.
 
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