mvuent

Void Dweller
I guess for me, a big thing is: is this music intended to make people dance? Is it designed with that in mind? And, in the appropriate conditions, will it cause people to lose their shit on the dancefloor?

Jungle I would say is "yes" to all three. Even tho it might me difficult to dance to, it was precision tooled with an understanding of what would make its audience dance. That fundamental impulse runs through everything.

With stuff like mark fell, yeah you can dance to it. But the connection isn't as strong. It is not precision tooled to make a particular dancefloor audience lose their shit. It is a personal expression, with sits at one remove from any dancefloor. And that, for me, is a big difference.

Stuff like jungle was serving a need, of a particular community of people who go to raves. Stuff like mark fell is not serving the same communal need, but is drawing upon music that has previously or currently served such a need.
(for anyone ITT)

suppose you're only hearing this stuff in a decontextualized form: on youtube, not in a social gathering of any kind (and lacking experience with the intended audience). in that scenario, do you think you can hear this difference in intent/design, generally? can you judge just from listening in your room—idm style—that mark fell is kind of danceable, but jungle is “precision tooled” for danceability?

(and yeah, i realize it’s a question only a hopeless nerd would ask. that's obviously why i asked it. …do have my own ideas about how this dynamic works, though)
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
How do I end up like this at the end of acid trips watching the revenant in the dark?

There's no getting around it - I want some sort of pain
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
(for anyone ITT)

suppose you're only hearing this stuff in a decontextualized form: on youtube, not in a social gathering of any kind (and lacking experience with the intended audience). in that scenario, do you think you can hear this difference in intent/design, generally? can you judge just from listening in your room—idm style—that mark fell is kind of danceable, but jungle is “precision tooled” for danceability?

(and yeah, i realize it’s a question only a hopeless nerd would ask. that's obviously why i asked it. …do have my own ideas about how this dynamic works, though)
exactly my experience
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I don't understand it

Bloody mindedness having a TV this small in this day and age

And picking this film!
 
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