Mark Fell, Rian Treanor, Gabor Lazar

[Leo]

I didn't mean intellectual as in smart, I meant it as consciously mapped out, abiding by a scene's criteria. as opposed to the best house music, which is largely just a replicated heartbeat at loud volumes lavished with heat and sex.

 

[version]

I think all these categories fall down under scrutiny. People consciously chose to make house and jungle. They were abiding by the scenes' respective criteria when they chose to use certain breaks, gear, samples, titles, arrangements.

 

[Leo]

head vs. heart

 

[Leo]

doesn't mean one is entirely devoid of the other, but one is more dominant.

 

[version]

Yeah, I can agree with that.

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

Jungle is more authentically dance music than mark fell

 

[line b]

doesn't mean one is entirely devoid of the other, but one is more dominant.

I think minimalism breaks down even that argument

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

Sorry I'm really drunk but the point bears repeating

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

I can't beleve we're even discussing this

 

[Simon silverdollarcircle]

Sorry @version

 

[line b]

doesn't mean one is entirely devoid of the other, but one is more dominant.

I think minimalism breaks down even that argument

check the comments for this club mix, its got that one guy looking up at the cosmos, pensively smoking a pipe, stroking a beard

 

[Leo]

but see, I'd say "acid trax" is hot, sweaty, pumpin', jackin' sex music, as opposed to clinical head music emanating from software code.

 

[version]

Jungle is more authentically dance music than mark fell

Yeah, but that doesn't make this stuff not dance music. There's just another layer to it.

 

[version]

I don't think framing this stuff as not being designed to dance to's the right way to go about it. I'd say it's more that there's a layer of self-consciousness to it in the same way there is with postmodern fiction. It's aware of itself as dance music and plays with the form, but it's still dance music.

 

[luka]

Yeah, but that doesn't make this stuff not dance music. There's just another layer to it.

There's a few layers missing surely?

 

[version]

A different layer then.

 

[luka]

I hope silver dollars gets more drunk and piles in with a load of beyond the pale abuse soon

 

[Leo]

a few additional unsexy egghead layers.

 

[Leo]

nobody's gonna bump'n grind to mark fell.

 

[Leo]

bless him.