wake up lads its time to talk about sin

Linebaugh

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"And there is more joy in heaven over one repentant sinner than over ten righteous men"

Invitation for the more learned here talk a little on the relationship of sin and the Abrahamic religions.

Why the fixation? Why is sin inevitable and when does it take hold? Is sin demanded by love as its necessary counter pole?
 
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Linebaugh

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I like Kafka's take on original sin, placing extra emphasis on original sin as inherited rather than innate, and that its the passing down of damnation, this lineage, that is its continued existence.
 

WashYourHands

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Sin is the Control guilt trip. Control its interpretations, control the sinner.

”Forgive me Father for I have sinned, it’s been 38 years since my last confession.......”

- “:wanking sounds:”

Its emphasis serves to block meditation on the divine, because if you were to do that god knows what demons could be conjured. Then it’d be “careful now, down with that sort of thing”.

It disavows you from the reality that life is a total risk, of everything, of you, to misquote James Baldwin.
 

Leo

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I grew up in a catholic household and remember the first time I went to confession as a kid. I was so confused and put off by the entire ritual that I didn't know what to say when I got into the confessional booth, so I just made up a couple of stories about how I stole some quarters of my dad's desk and hit my brother. the act of confession actually prompted me to lie to a priest, just so I'd have some reasonably acceptable "sins" for which to atone. how fucked up is that?!
 

WashYourHands

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Atonement for fuck ups, contrition etc, help you develop as a human as long as its genuine.

Forcing kids into veiled booths encourages lies though. Did exactly what you did Leo. A sane response.

Penances too. 20 Hail Marys and a dozen Our Fathers? Fuck that.
 
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I like Twain's (?) line about "the sinner who needed it most",

“But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most, our one fellow and brother who most needed a friend yet had not a single one, the one sinner among us all who had the highest and clearest right to every Christian's daily and nightly prayers, for the plain and unassailable reason that his was the first and greatest need, he being among sinners the supremest?”
 

martin

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that's hilarious, I had no idea other kids did that too. I guess if you don't have the prerequisite catholic guilt, you lie to a priest about your sins and create your own guilt.
Unfortunately my mother ingratiated herself with the parish priest (used to invite around for dinner), so I toned down my sin list in case any of it got back to her. Skip any mention of jazz mags (10 Rosaries) and just mumble something about disrespecting my parents or teachers (2).
 

Leo

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wonder what a priest would have done if I'd had the balls to say "hi father. I haven't done anything wrong, so nothing to report"?
 
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