Not sure what that means (but I've got a theory). I mean if you're looking for the vibe of 'ardkore at a dubstep gig you won't get it, but that doesn't mean the music doesn't have its own ecstasies. Not sure either how the Burial LP can be "purely retrograde" but Funky House isn't (or much-lauded Ghost Box for that matter).Funky House at its best makes a complete mockery of the portentous riddimic theorising of Dubstep or Micro-House by actually out-stepping it in practice without resorting to drawing the listener into a state of emotional torpor.
I think I've heard a fair bit on Rinse by this point but I still couldn't tell you. Sounds like everything-but-the-kitchen-sink House but without the abandon of ardkore's sampling practices.So what does it refer to now?
I don't know the Wire reference for this comment but this question (if that's what he's talking about) of Dubstep intersecting with bourgeois, specialist listening culture* is a worthwhile one. Still it's so problematized by the link to JA sound system culture that it that it ultimately can't be discussed in such simple terms.It's tempting to include here The Wire magazine's endorsement of Dubstep into the litany of crimes committed in the name of specious, bourgeois, pseudo-historical engineering**
DJ NG has coined the term Urbance:funky house i believe now is just a loose umbrella phrase which relates more to a scene and networks of djs, clubs, labels etc than any particular form. it used to be all live bass and soft keys and saxophones and such, but now its anything from deep to electro to funky to whatever else
NG started promoting his night in Northampton before taking up his spot on Rinse,so I dont think this pheneomenon is resticted to London by any means.I think people in the Garage/post Garage scene have of late made too much of the extent of their role within the 'Funky House' scene. In the grand scheme of things the input of Garage people is small, Funky House is a concept embraced by that many people who dont even know Garage fucking exists. That this type of music is now becoming popular among Black Londoners is interesting, but I doubt this pheneomenon will be a talking point for many people outside London (or forums like this). Dont expect front page coverage in Mixmag, or Europeans or Americans to care that much. Regardless of your views on the tag, lets keep things in perspective.
I'm surprised to see him fall into this trap too, quite lazy really. I've not seen any major producers theorising unnecessarily about their music - it'd even be a struggle to find Kode 9 actually applying the concepts he talks about to the music he makes. Seems like Woebot has been paying more attention to forum threads about dubstep than to the music itself.Woebot said:Funky House at its best makes a complete mockery of the portentous riddimic theorising of Dubstep or Micro-House by actually out-stepping it in practice without resorting to drawing the listener into a state of emotional torpor.
Mmmmm... wish I had time for this today. Had a quick read. Some good points. I've been wondering how Funky House can, in fact, be inherently evil. Seems just as ripe for perverse mutations as Acid, breakbeats, and 2step. And are there no echoes of early UK Garage here?
agreed. i think people expected the next 'big thing' to draw incestuously from what has gone before, and continue this apparent 'british rave continuum' but forgot that pretty much everything that preceded funky house was pretty much a brit reaction to foreign genres to begin with (even grime, for all the big deal made of it taking from garage and jungle, was pretty much a reaction to american hip-hop). rave used to be all about US imports no? i cant wait for people over here to start mutating funky house and creating something new. its inevitable i hope.
yeah exaclty.i cant wait for people over here to start mutating funky house and creating something new. its inevitable i hope.
Yeah, I was wondering what you guys have meant by funky house all this time because I only know this kind. Does anybody have a link to a streaming radio station, or dj/producer myspace where where I could hear some of this "urbance" funky house stuff? (..or is it not actually a genre but an eclectic mix style of electro house, garage, etc?) I don't think we have anything like funky house here in the U.S....This causes confusion because "funky house" was already being used to describe mid to late 90s cheeseball disco-sampling fare like Phats and Small.