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Can't. I have an exam tomorrow, that I am studying for, followed by an appt in another city, then I have to pack a bunch of stuff for a move by saturday morning.

I know he did. Then you mentioned Soma, so I thought people were talking about benzodiazepines. It's not that weird of a mistake to make. I've slept 3 hours. I had a math final exam and an electrochemisty exam today, on 3 hours sleep. I'm hungry. My back hurts from sitting and studying for the...

Deflect. Deflect. Deflect.

Why would it matter if I combed through every post, anyway? My initial posts were very clearly responding to lanugo's post from very early in the thread, not yours, so just get a grip on yourself. Meanwhile, my "generalizations" still haven't been pointed out. Because I didn't make any.

Mr. Tea's quote is exactly why I thought you were talking about the actual drug: Since the real Soma is very closely related to Valium chemically, but the soma in the book is more of a "feel-good" serotonin-like drug, I thought maybe the convo had switched to Soma. Why is that a big deal...

So? The development of language historically means that we didn't grab the word directly from Sanskrit, but that it has a long history of being used by cultures, from Greeks, to Romans, and then into romance languages and eventually English. Latin is actually a much more likely source; more...

I'm still waiting for someone to point out my egregious "generalizations".

Be my guest. Quote all the references you like. The only reason to capitalize the word soma, and make it a proper noun, would seem to be because you're indicating a brand name. IIRC, in the book, "soma" was not capitalized.

Yup! Derived from latin, as I suspected.

I corrected myself, jeezis. I just misremembered the goddamned translation of a word with common LATIN/GREEK/SANSKRIT ROOTS. You just pull this stuff out of wikipedia, to be an asshole. The reason why I thought it was "body" is because in biology/chemistry, "somatic" cells are body cells, cf...

No, that's obvious to you because you don't listen to people talk about organic chemicals all day every day, including soma. The fact that the word was capitalized made it seem even more likely to me that someone was talking about a brand name. Soma is of a class that is often lumped in as a...

Where did I make a generalization? Please, show me.

A trip could be part of it, but the goal is always in medicine to reduce side-effects or strength when possible in order to facilitate safest possible use of the medication. Why "some" drugs? Why is it always a very specific type of drug that's targeted by people like lanugo? Isn't lanugo...

Yeah, I totally "missed" it. That's why I noted in my post that I noticed it. Because I didn't notice. I'm really into writing about things I don't notice. Soma is an older medication that often gets lumped in with other "bad" drugs like valium. It wouldn't have been at all strange in the...

It amuses me, the hypocrisy of people who want to be able to take their NSAIDs, and their antibiotics, and their immunizations, and chemotherapy when they have cancer, and smoke their weed, and take their vitamins, get the AIDS cocktail if they need it, etc. etc. Science isn't capitalistical...

Yeah, and the NYTimes has only run about a gazillion of these articles in the past year or so. I've read all of them, so I didn't bother clicking on the link. Most of the rush to rediscover hallucinogens after the gov lightened restrictions has been focused on LSD, so far. I'd guess that LSD is...

Utterly predictable. And downright ridiculous.

I did read the thread, and it was ridiculous. Mr. Tea made some good points (which is why I told him "^This"--maybe it's you who needs to read more carefully). Lanugo and Woebot said things that I think are fundamentally illogical. Soma is used in the treatment of severe anxiety disorders...

Wasn't the article linked to about LSD? When I said develop, I meant LSD. Most new research is with LSD, not psilocybin. When I said refined, I was thinking mostly of psilocybin and related compounds. Research isn't done using actual mushrooms... they make medical grade psilocybin for that...

Psilocybin is the 'active ingredient' in mushrooms. But you can synthesize it in a lab, and plenty of people have/do. People were using psilocybin, ayahuasca, yage, marijuana, etc., as medicine for thousands of years, long before capitalism was around.