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I'm totally with you there. The second season of Extras explores that even more but in regards to trying to create art/comedy in such a context. It's quite clever imo. I also like the extreme silliness too - a bit of slapstick never hurt anyone. But Little Britain leaves me cold. How many times...

Check the wikipedia entry Peter Gunn - esp. here. Re UK withdrawal, although not definitive - I hope hundredmillionlifetimes will be back with better quotes, the wiki says:

Nope - found it: it's called Picaresque. Interestingly that wiki reports a literary controversy quite similar to the one we have here: .

Easy there. I for one don't think A Clockwork Orange is filth. I was just using it as an example of a film about bad people doing bad things; there have been many films like that before and since. There's a technical term for such stories which I can't remember at the moment. I love watching...

Yeah I'm beginning to see how you British have acquired a distaste for Borat. I saw a news snippet last night of him at an Australian press conference: rather crass and unfunny in person/impromptu - so far.

But neither is Borat - it's a prank film masquerading as a documentary for it's unsuspecting victims Ah but that didn't stop you from watching it... ;)

I find your arguments persuasive but I stumble on this one. Art/film/etc is just too protean to be covered by such a simple prescription. There is never any one "message" in any given work. There are often many themes and ideas, often running in opposite directions. That's why it's art and not...

But but isn't A Clockwork Orange a film about violence that depicts violence and even "glorifies" it in some way. Is anyone going to boycott that film because the main character, albeit somewhat sympathetically portrayed in some scenes, is a nasty shit? Doesn't that film use violence to...

yeah but in the 70's they didn't have house, techno, hip hop, dancehall, dubstep, electro etc etc

Yeah but isn't that saying more about music journalists and their needs - ie. to be seen as breaking new ground, discovering new horizons in the eyes of their readers - rather than the need to tak a critical view of our society? I think being critical of what you do, where you are etc is...

Yeah... they rebelled by not rebelling! makes total sense. ... :confused:

Maybe you've been listening to the wrong music, swears? Maybe you've dug a certain sound or vibe dry and it's time for something new, something out of left-field that you've never tried before - that usually works for me..

Well, if Baron-Cohen's intention was to get people talking about racism, then he's succeeded 100%. I just had a look at the trailer again on YouTube and it does seem to me that the people who like Borat and give him the most time are the Amreican ruling class etc and the people who give him...

A couple of interesting posts on the film here and here. I'm a lot more interested in seeing it now that I know Larry Charles is directing...

K-Punk's arguments sound good but I haven't seen it yet and those at Lenin's Tomb sound good too... And I haven't seen Borat yet so I can't comment. This is also one of the funniest TV pranks ever so I've gotta give credit where it's due. "let's do it, but with more energy..!" Norman...

As per the Sonic Youth web-site's links page: .

Well, it could be, but I'm not a musician nor an expert on latin music. I think Samba is the main style that feeds into techno. Apparently that Microworld track "Signals" on Transmat is something like an electronic samba track. I get the feeling that the techno guys filch their rhythms from many...

Hmm... You obviously are not a techno fan. Latin rhythms have been all through most of the techno and house sets I've heard in the last eight or ten years - at least: from Derrick May and Carl Craig to Jeff Mills at his maddest/hardest. Check out some of those tracks on the Transmat comps...

I dunno guys... the teen-age metal-head in me finds this thread a little distasteful as it seems a bit like bad fashion writing: you know, oh d 'n' b is so passe, shoegaze is the new black etc. So on the one hand this no new novelty thing makes sense: no work is ever truly "original", to know...

Software is just another tool. You still have to learn the basics of how sound works and why people get a kick out of listening to music etc etc. No instrument or computer or whatever will do that for you. Brian Eno has done some great stuff and has probably earned the right to pontificate...