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i figure this is the only place i could post this that people would be remotely interested... a one man noise band thing i did in 2001.... drums, sax w wah wah, and some old roland synth my roommate had... https://soundcloud.com/pgunn/black-tigers

^^^^^^^^^^this is about the best summation of the fight... if this fight had happened right after manny pounded cotto, we might have seen floyd catch an L... speaking of cotto, the way floyd played it safe with manny proves his "slugfest" with cotto was a joke, that he had figured out cotto...

it sucks... i feel bad for any rappers from far rock, it seems like coming out of there is a curse... a small tribal place... tho gods knows what happened here...

i actually like shutdown more than any skepta song since duppy, no joke...

was just thinking that.... love the electric eels, love that zz top stuff, but it dates from the new wave era no? the first Dr Feelgood record is from 75, but totally has a 1979 post punk sparesness

scrufizzer got his on this: they work well together....

stormzy has something skepta will never have: charisma i don't hate skepta, i just think of all the people who might become the face of grime, he's a terrible ambassador...

in an effort to bring positivity to this thread:

i like skepta as a producer, but i think as an mc he has no charisma and his flow is wooden... he has some decent bars for sure, but if, out of all the mc's out there, he becomes the face of grime... :mad:

on a major label condiment thing, the heinz peri peri sauce is heavenly on eggs:

sweet chili sauces are good for coating fried wings with, besides that, yeah...

if skepta becomes famous as the international face of grime (like if play a grime record, will people go "oh like skepta?" or rush up and request skepta), i think i'll kill myself

exactly, a good lawyer could certainly get some cash out of the some of the beatles songs where mccartney does a little richard impression... if rhythmic pattern and VIBES are enough for a lawsuit, bo diddley's family is about to be filthy stinking rich... can rick rubin now sue anyone who...

so is anybody else going to eskimo dance?

when the peace edits came out, i loved them, but this might perhaps be too chill... real talk, i don't know if i will buy it, but i like listening to it washing the dishes...

i wrote something for thump on the places grime and dancehall intersect... the editing took some of the deepness out of it, but the list is still good: http://thump.vice.com/words/here-are-the-top-5-dancehallgrime-crossovers

thanks all... MVE is prob my fav record store in london, just for the wide variety of cheap stuff.... have never seen grime there before, but will check...

so, i am gonna be in LDN in time to go to Eskimo Dance on Dec 27... do any stores in london still stock grime/grimey type records? Black Market? Like which stores stock Butterz stuff and Rinse, etc?

i wrote something for vice about grime records... specifically about how the prices for old ones have gone thru the roof and what good cheap ones are still left http://thump.vice.com/words/the-top-10-underpriced-grime-records