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God Max B holds up well

Moody Boys, early jungle, Blapps posse, first Uk rave hop, you can go on <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QzF1bvvAgRk" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You also forgot the KLF/ Orb South London thing, plus the Youth psytrance South London thing.

Yes. And, as a SL til I die, obviously I get what you're saying. But East London killed it, and it's just the way it is/was.

I think that's accurate re Curtis, for me too commercially determined to ever reach joy.

Yeah I went through that as well trying to choose my 5, joy in suicide, joy in angst, joy in burning things down, feeling joy in sorrow, it's a really hard one, hence aksing for help, or thinking it was interesting, cos I thought it would be easy and I'm a week and half in now and still trying...

I think that video of the guy in the tube singing A Little Respect is amazing re : joy

Well, if that's all your ideas of joy, then I'm definitely not shagging any of you.

That was on my list, not that version though. I play the Velvet Undergound increasingly, so much, so varied, so good sometimes. This version of What Goes On - if you haven't gone through their live stuff do, it's much better in some ways, check out the Matrix Tapes : <iframe width="560"...

Fkin hell really?

OMG yes. I'd totally forgotten about France Gall, thank you. Poupee De Cire, my god, how joy is that one too?

Yup, it's about how high up the fuck heirarchy you can go. But, joy records please not blog ego

I kinda think if you are talking about getting fucked by a daemon, then you are kinda talking bout sex. Sorry darlin.

5:27 "Green Man Gotta Make A Change" <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iHaGfdE3vIY" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yeah it's a weird one that song. In the right place, at the right time, I could put that on and I could make you weep. But maybe Dissensus isn't the right forum, which means it isn't quite right. See Lee Mathers problem all his life.

@Corpsey. The more time I spend with old people, the more they bring joy. And anyway, what about elephants <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XAi3VTSdTxU" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

I mean, I've had to write about the songs I've chosen (which aren't fixed yet) and I've listed that joy can be angry, joy can be sad, joy can be drugs, joy can be suicide, I don't think joy is restricted, it's just a route to freedom, or maybe freedom itself. Sorry I never liked that Boo...

Carnal joy, man.

I was obsessed with her for a moment. Can't find the footage I used to use of her in that video but I used it alot. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IB4a8eSJGrM" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Grooverider was a really nice guy.