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Clearly. And White Stripes aren't just for people who never heard Royal Trux. Oh no...

Ooh, that reminds me. Angels Of Light - Michael Gira's current band - really are good. I'm especially enamoured with 2001's How I Loved You.

I was disappointed with it, especially after the excellent Dopethrone. They're apparently knocking another one out this year; I hope it's as gnarly and dirty as We Live wasn't. *** There were some really good UK heavy rock bands a few years ago, all kind of emanating from Nottingham...

I'm definitely going to check out some of the albums mentioned; not heard John Maus, nor Paavoharjou. Gotta say that, while 'indie' is admittedly a rather abstract genre nowadays, The Strokes represent neither the aesthetic I would associate with indie nor the quality to be considered 'key'. If...

Would this be where Tool discussion goes, if there is any? I did a little search and found nothing.

How many have they done so far? They seem like they must have done loads, but I can't think of any. I don't think the song is particularly bad. It's just not approaching good. I'm amused at the album getting full marks and plaudits of 'one of the greatest rock double albums ever' etc. Guess the...