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More seriously, though, I'm not sure that the analogy between fine/ high art and Pop really works (it's telling that Greenberg, rather than any Pop critic, had to be appealed to). Critics weren't required to legitimate the status of even such uber-canonic acts as Elvis, The Beatles and The...

So, in a nutshell, it's all just a matter of opinion? :)

Right, so trad jazz and chamber quartets are equally as vital and urgent cultural scenes as any other musical genre? Given that this is in no way a serious proposition, it's worth asking what the non-subjective factors that indicate the vitality of particular genres are. Obv popularity alone...

Partly the problem with 'Clint Eastwood' was dub, really... I find anything dub-influenced impossible to listen to except at a meta level now, as a signifier of tastefulness... My position on the Gorillaz is that I kind of like the records, but I'd like them more if they weren't by them...

Fair play to you... But a flame-war at this point would be more than pointless; it would play into the hands of the likes of Paul Hotflush, and surely we can agree that we don't want the board reduced to that kind of silly sniping... Those are good questions... but it's not like I have 'the...

I for one am totally intrigued....

You're right about the cover... fucking terrible cover, book's not so hot either....

I don't understand the maths, but Bat certainly does (I'll ask him if he'll post on this thread)... however I just don't understand the disparaging of the magnificent St Paul book... there's no maths/ set theory in that as I recall (perhaps I'm remembering it wrongly)... what is supposed to be...

1. What's wrong with a struggle to remove things? 2. I have to assume that 'struggle' here is code for 'military struggle', but Oliver, Oliver you couldn't be disapproving of THAT could you? It's not the MEANS that are the problem surely... No, the point is that your show of dismay at...

IS catharsis the right term here? Seems like he's talking about enjoyment... And certainly that 'cusp of enjoyment' is surely familiar to us all, where something that once seemed chaotic/ unpleasant/inexplicable suddenly becomes enjoyable...and there's a kind of double enjoyment at that point...

Coxon is annoying fer sure, but by far the most irritating member of Blur was Alex Fucking James, a man whose unctuous sliming swagger took smugness to a degree previously considered humanly unattainable... just check the way he flicks that fucking toff's fringe in all those Blur videos... a man...

I can't really see what is supposed to be so shocking about this. World without America.... good World without Israel... good World without Zionism....good That of course doesn't mean that these countries are to be removed by force... but in an ideal world, yeh, let's see the back of...

I think Moodles has missed my point. I don't say that ALL the best pop is working class; what I said was that when AREAS of Pop are DOMINATED by the m/c they tend to be crap... I can understand rejecting class analysis if you reject ALL sociological contextualization (Moodles seems to favour...

I can't see how any recording technologies help here... what CONCEPTUAL advance do mp3s/ digitization offer over analogue recording? A digitally recorded sound is in this sense no different to the sound itself - what is required is a one-level up abstract description of the sound, simply...

Yes, that would be the point.

But either-or choices aren't the same as binary oppositions. Either I go to the shops or I go to the park... This doesn't mean that going to the park is the opposite of going to the shops.

Moodles.... The Stones were hardly card-carrying members of the bourgeoisie, they were just grammar school boys....A more convincing example would help; after all, if my story doesn't hold water, you ought to be able to think of countless e.g.s off the top off your head... (An irony is that...

Good piece on Lenin's Tomb on Rosa Parks, which corrects some of the myths about her (i.e. the downgrading of her involvement in anti-racist activism and her support for Malcolm X).

I really want to see this now... what is so bad about it?

I'm reluctant to drag out a Maximo Park thread any longer (and this is surely a topic which deserves a thread of its own), but .... there are at least two claims in your last post: 1) Class can't be used AT ALL as a means of classifying people (the implication of the claim that any discussion...