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and each level relies on the level above--for example, israeli energy politics depends on regional geopolitics, and regional energy geopolitics depends on the global situation. the importance of Israel's natural gas discoveries for its domestic political concerns, for example, cant be understood...

true, but it's also a question of lenses or analytical dimensions. you can look at the conflict in terms of domestic Israeli-Palestinian politics, you can look at the conflict in terms of its effect on regional geopolitics in the middle east, and you can look at it in terms of the...

This is good - interview with Israeli historian Guy Laron on Netanyahu and current Israeli politics: https://www.phenomenalworld.org/analysis/october-war/

there's a lot going on, I think it's fair to say

It's a fun and, due to the complexity, kind of maddening exercise to try to draw out the regional geopolitics at work. You have Iran, which emerged as an important power following the Iraq war and is a key player in the Western-opposed geopolitical block which China leads. You have Saudi Arabia...

let's here em

are you gonna live blog your insights

having an argument, even if you think the presumptions that the argument is based on are stupid (or wrong, or whatever), is not without value. maybe its without value to you, in which case no one is going to knock you for not participating for sure, but it's not necessarily without value for the...

what do you want here

yeah i know that, that's been my whole point for like five pages

and, moreover, is there a degree of alignment that goes beyond self-interest? it might even be the case that two distinct poeples can agree on basic moral principles, murder is bad etc, despite a geopolitical antagonism.

question is, can we go beyond that?

this is the basis of FP realism - who gets to decide?

That's *one* basis

I completely disagree. this is just might makes right, it cannot be the basis of any international agreement.

bc its all ultimately consensus based at the international level

that's just another extreme statement which doesn't make any sense. where do you think laws come from? the issue is who makes the rules and what they consider moral, not whether they're completely disconnected from morality.

Look, I'm a very cycnical person. We had, if you remember, a huge argument about the "rules based" order, russia, and FP realism, in which I took the position that the rules based order was a big joke. I stand by that. But, at the same time, we have to recognise that we want and need to...

Whether an act is legal from the POV of international law it doesn't imply that its moral. Maybe its legal and totally immoral.

I completely agree with that