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  1. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    I mean jfc look at the Congress of Vienna which is as textbook a formal international settlement as you can get. Literally Metternich's whole deal was a balance of self-interests to prevent another general European conflict.
  2. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    And who decides this universal morality to which the laws are tied? You, vimothy? Someone else? What universal arbiter of morality exists
  3. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    The basis of any international agreement is a balance of self-interests
  4. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Semantics You know exactly what I mean There is no universal morality. Laws are exactly an expression of whoever made them.
  5. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    why? Besides "bc I say so" I mean
  6. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    To get back on topic, the immediate point is that whether or not it's even feasible (which I doubt) indisputably no international institution currently exists which is likely to serve as a means to solve Isr/Pal Certainly the UN Security Council ain't it
  7. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    But we're way into some IR tangent
  8. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Yes it's almost as if laws have no inherent connection to morality
  9. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    As I said to begin, lip service is better than nothing. Another of saying it is a useful fiction. If govts have to say that they care about human rights qua human rights instead of realpolitik, it might mitigate their behavior. An ICC that prosecutes leaders who aren't powerful enough to prevent...
  10. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    I object to what Israel is doing - and tbc, various things its opponents have done - bc I as an individual find them immoral, not because they do or don't constitute war crimes according to whatever body decides what are and are not war crimes (i.e. no one, there is no such body with the ability...
  11. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    reconcile these two statements
  12. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    It's your criteria. Literally a direct quote from you.
  13. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    You're confusing a description of reality with a seal of approval
  14. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Name a single occasion in which a truly global crisis has been solved by international law
  15. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Which is basically the same as Isr/Pal Ofc try It's just very unlikely to happen Tho imo more likely than an intl solution to climate change
  16. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    But seriously I'm not saying don't try Of course try I'm just saying it won't happen
  17. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    No you're right I'll stop what I'm doing and reorder the world economy to construct an unprecedented international solution to climate change
  18. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    It won't come from anywhere bud we're just fucked Welcome to the desert of the real
  19. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    The major problem w a two-state solution, which gets worse every year, is as has been mentioned the settlers
  20. padraig (u.s.)

    Since it's been a while since we had an Israel/Palestine thread...

    Some kind of two-state solution based on the pragmatic recognition that openended indefinite occupation is simply untenable Various Israeli leaders have recognized that. Rabin, Barak, Olmert. They've never been able to make a peace deal for a variety of reasons including both domestic...
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