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I think he's right to draw out that common thread between a lot of stuff that's out this year. But when he tries to make it into some big inter-decade pendulum swing, rather than relating it more closely to its direct predecessors like dubstep (which even then would be a problematic binary to...

what's the dissensus on this? It seems to apply at least tangentially to this thread: http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8721-maximal-nation/ He sure does love his binaries eh

The drop is a lot like Thunder Bay except with Thunder Bay there's something extraordinary about the production...it's all so squeezed and hyped up, incredibly raw sounding but somehow the balance and impact is still there. Whereas this feels quite tame to me

Having studied at a classical music conservatoire for 3 years, 'why?' is in my experience the question that almost never gets asked.

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I can't wait til the point in my life when I become nostalgic about hyper-consumerism

Everybody should look in the mirror and ask themselves this question every morning.

I never really went on the site but I'm curious about how it's perceived...wasn't there quite a big backlash against it when it started? As far as I've heard it told, it was essentially an attempt by Pitchfork to keep up with all the h-pop-style sub-sub-sub-genres by syndicating a bunch of...

I'm aware that in the last few pages we've opened up a yawning void into the huge amorphous sponge of idiocy that is 'dubstep' now. Could I ask that we retreat back to the sheltered dissensian world of hyping the odd shackleton record and detached critiques of wobble tunes? This is too much.

Very glad to hear it :D

I guess Shut Up And Dance should get a mention, they must have been one of the earliest examples of a hybrid..?

Yeah I was more referring specifically to the 'why don't we call everything post-skiffle' argument...there are situations in which it's a valid piece of terminology.

I was watching BBC news tonight on all the economy stuff. Apparently one of the arguments against u-turning on all the evil tory funding cuts and public sector mutilation is that fiscal stimulus won't work because the UK economy has 'lost its entrepreneurial zeal'...even if you pumped money...

post punk it's to do with the way that genre/scene/ideology interacts with the referenced genre/scene/ideology. I'm not arguing for 'post dubstep'. But in many ways it's the best option.

I dunno, I think it's an alright term when judiciously used....I mean grime and funky aren't ABOUT bass but subbass is a much more integral part of them than it is in folk...or even house, though that's a much bigger and more subtle debate but yeah totally abused by ignorant 16 year old...

oh man

All this 808 stuff is a particularly pronounced case I think of how things have gone...about a year and a half ago I thought the addison groove / boddika ting was going to just keep growing, with more and more people jumping on it, because the parameters seemed so well defined but with enough...

I wonder what the F stands for in 'UKF Bass Culture'

great mix man. Rare to hear a Blawan track mixed in with 'proper' house and for it to not stick out (either in a good way or a bad way). Gets bashy at the end :D