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How could anyone watch any of those videos and get that out of it? She was excitedly asking for reactions, she was ESPECIALLY interested in getting negative ones, because they proved her point. I didn't see her "silencing" anyone, especially not dissenters. Edit: Sorry, wrong teacher, was...

No, you're missing the point of this part of the exercise entirely. The reason why the facilitator and whichever psychologists might be involved (I haven't seen any involved in any renditions I've watched) would tell the people who try to bow out of the exercise because they object to judging...

This thread is disturbing. It really is. The blind rage and hatred that's stirred up at the mere *suggestion* that people discriminate based on phenotypes. Surprise, surprise--it's all white males who want to "smash" the person who dares speak out in the face. Or make sure she gets fucked...

Uh, what? Cozy world? Growing up in a the backwoods of Iowa in the early-mid 20th century hardly qualifies as a "cozy world". It's entirely symptomatic that people prefer to come up with all sorts of weird, labyrinthine justifications regarding why they should hate the facilitator of the...

I think the ABC News video I posted earlier demonstrated pretty well how much power ordinary individual people have when they decide to stand up and do something about discrimination. After a while, individuals add up to groups. You have to understand, this whole exercise is being performed...

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Oh yes, it's a complete mystery why we'd do that, given the hundreds of years of slavery, oppression, imperialism, and colonialism much of the world endured at the hands of white Europeans.

Of course, all people are racist. But when you're in a predominantly white society, where you're in a post-colonial diaspora, it does make sense to focus on the ways in which white people are privileged over others in that society.

Grizzle, I was not appealing to you for anything. I'm just saying. That's not a big deal, it's not technically "abuse" even if it's not really very nice. Ok, so Jane Elliot is not a psychologist. She's a teacher. This video I suppose is supposed to be shocking, but these kids are acting...

Oh yeah! We did this in second grade. I remember. Brown eyed people went first. We all got extra stickers for bonus calendar. I was the only person who gave the sticker back to the teacher.

What other kinds of systems might you be interested in her exploring, other than white-dominated ones?

Some people find church very therapeutic, though, for that very reason.

Grizzle, I've actually been abused and had bad shit happen to me. And it's nothing like volunteering for a social experiment and having the psychologist say some mildly not-nice things in a role-play. My guess is that if you think the two things are equivalent in some way, you've had a damn easy...

I have no idea why this person chose her career, and I have no idea what most of her career entails. It's altogether possible that this TV show was some kind of sideline for her. But if she does dedicate her life to raising awareness about racism, I'm all for it. Bravo. I hope she does piss...

Well, yes and no. I don't think that within the context of that experiment what was going on constitutes "cruelty" by any stretch of the imagination. But yes, sometimes a more 'violent' rupture might be necessary. If you went around recoiling from all of life's cruel and violent experiences...

No, I realize you didn't say those things. But I find it depressing if unsurprising that yours and credit crunch's objections to the experiment hinge so heavily on normativity. Why protect these normative constraints as if they're so important and precious when they're what's keeping people...

AHA I get it. This really is about normativity. Women aren't supposed to be "mean" like that. Nobody is, but especially not women. She's a "vile little sex starved Hitler"...she must be...otherwise, how could a woman, a woman of all people, make people cry (boohoo:() for reasons so trivial...

But isn't your concern sort of misplaced? Who do you suppose is "enjoying" this? And how would you be justified in making that kind of assumption? I mean, how sorry do I feel for somebody who's crying because they've been backed into a corner and exposed as a racist? Nowhere near as sorry as I...

That's exactly who I figured it was for without even seeing the video...

That's really strange-- if they wanted to do a black and white role play, they should've just done that and ditched the eye color premise. And yeah, it would've been better to mix up the races on each side in that case. And then ask the participants to act out a given scenario the way they think...