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What was he basing the idea that Wiley was the only grime artist left on though? I'm not trying to defend Playtime is over - I like it but it's not that great or anything - it's the general statements on grime's health based on hearing Wiley, Dizzee and Kano's LPs that got me. I just dont see...

Anyone see Stylus' review of Wiley the other day? It was terrible. I wrote a bit about it here but that doesn't cover the half of it...

Are independance reliable? I've never used them before, but that sale looks too good to resist...

There's just so much time and effort poured into Axiom; all the little touches like the Backwards Riddim bit and the 'I've got a message for the grime scene' over the I Luv U drop can't have been thought out in one session. You get the impression these are tracks that he's constantly gone back...

my word.

It's from last year, but I think Michael Mayer's Immer 2 mix is incredible. (Am taking mental notes of the other stuff suggested in this thread- already have the Pantha one and it's great!)

Oh yeah, those bars were brilliant, I think both of these Skepta ones were from about the same time (when he did that 2 hour show with Plastician, and had the Mike Jones bars and stuff). This one was different though, it ended really bluntly on the 'gigantic nose' bit. It was on something I was...

'That beat was a load of tescos, mate!' Tesco bag = swag. Sorry... :o

Someone should re-adapt cockney rhyming slang for grime terminlogy. I don't think anything rhymes with wasteman though...

There was an even blunter extension of that I've heard Skepta do a few times that's along the lines of 'your girl always wants to phone me/even though I've got dry elbows and a gigantic nose'. Wish I could remember it properly; anyone? I love it when MCs have little replies to each others bars...

This could have its own thread: 'There's no set time that I have my tea at' 'Must be that same old kid in the dinner hall/primary, eating apple crumble and custard' 'My hair needed waves and so I brushed it' And best grime voice is Dirty Danger I think. Or Trim.

I noticed this morning that there's a clothes shop on Baker Street with a sign that says 'WE WILL DYE FOR YOU'

Little Dee and Vectra smashed it last night. The Eskibeat lot have got really good; Chipmunk especially but Dee's not far behind...

Wait, is that the one on Creeper 2, where Wiley ends it on the '4 in the morning' bars, or is that Graveyard? Because I always get them confused... When I'm Ere Wiley Remix is incredible. I was spinning that upstairs a minute ago, every MC just kills it.

01 Dizzee - I Luv U 02 Ruff Sqwad - Anna 03 Wiley - Ice Rink Then other stuff. Forward 2 is a good call; I like it more than Pow...

I don't know, my dad lived on a posh road in Epping when I was growing up, and people there never interacted with their neighbours; there was nowhere near the sense of knowing everybody there and everybody knowing you than I've found in estates. Same thing with where I currently live in Hackney...

This is also big: not just because of the physical amount of opportunities (I mean what can you do if things are shitty at home, cinema/sport aside, that doesn't involve hanging around your estate or going to a naff youth club), but the cultural oppression that exists: if someone wants to say...

I think living space is a bit part of it: not in the sense that you're in a small flat but the fact that you can't access your flat without going via a central building or whatever, so you're inevitably greeted by the same people, every day, there's no sense of retreatment, if someone wants to...

He also recommends John Pitt's Reluctant Gangsters: Youth Gangs in Waltham Forest

Well to add to the incoherency, I was having a discussion with a friend on another message board about the eleven year old in Liverpool today, and here's a c/p of one of my posts that covers my take on it (albiet a reply to something he said, and so a little out of context): 'I agree, and there...