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The popular vote is hardly irrelevant given that it usually does translate into election victory. But the particular relevance here is that the large popular vote for Labour in 2017 contradicts centrist bullshit about left-wing policies being a vote loser, that meaningful change is impossible...

Don't be fatuous. They don't all seek out endless mass media opportunities to make that criticism. Nor are they all given unlimited, uncritical access to do so.

Except that the result in 2017 wasn't just deflated by party staffers doing what they could to sabotage the election campaign. The PLP and Labour right had been publicly attacking the leadership at every opportunity for two years to try and be "proved right". So the largest popular vote since...

Yes, that's what centrists wanted with Corbyn – and indeed worked hard to achieve – so naturally they see the left hating on Starmer in the same light. Whereas the left are more... disappointed, disillusioned and angry, not least by Starmer's duplicitous switch from broad church unity candidate...

I shouldn't post in these threads. They just make me cross.

Yes, the last election was all the Left's fault. Yes, it's now all about the Left hating Starmer on Twitter. Not at all about how complete shit he's been. Typical centrist revisionist deflection twaddle.

Biden won for all sorts of reasons. For not being too threatening and, especially, not being Trump, sure. But he also had ideas of what he wanted to do and proposed to do. And he took the Democratic left and Black caucuses with him, who were both very instrumental in getting the vote out in key...

something new... :) and she plays virtually everything herself (y)

Cobblers.

It's probably due to LOTO Dominic Cummings' stories being given some traction on the front pages and BBC. Let's hope it continues (y)

Binge watched it a couple of day ago. Very enjoyable (y) :)

John Lennon's Imagine because it is the worst song ever

from something I read today... "The stronger your left is, the more credibility your center has. If you don't have a left, your center *is* the left and then they have no credibility." – Sarah Schulman seems quite applicable here

I only like the early stuff. 🙃 such as...

a disreputable opening repertoire (y)

"The risks to the Labour party of being so empty have been much discussed. But it is high time we also considered the risks to the rest of us of having an opposition that won’t oppose those who aim to destructively remake British society; of having the main progressive political party in this...