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I havent heard this term used for a beatless production.Is The Devil Mix of Eskimo not the one with the sample of the Toy Story Doll saying ''The Claw Is My Master'' WITH a beat?

What a sad irony it is that 'Indie' music has ended up being championed as the saviour of the Major record labels. Before anyone gets too stuck in to comparing the relative sales of Dizzee Rascal to The Artic Monkeys,remember this: The first Velvet Underground record sold a handfull of copies...

Derek and Clive should have been number one.The NME are bunch of C**ts!

How about The Newham Generals? They also have an LP on the way.

PLEASE tell me more!! I only know of ''Destiny'' and ''Da Grunge'' {US Alliance} and would love to know of other stuff by them.

And I'm losing the will to skank.....

If this situation gets out of hand Forest Gate could be the venue for Londons next real life riot: http://www.voice-online.net/content.php?show=8012&type=1 But if you can't wait for that I suggest that you hook up with these people: http://c8.com/anathematician/lrrs.htm

''Oi! Hater What You Laughing For? Your Skinny Arse Aint Even Through The Door!''

I heard Fire playing in Superdrug {a chain of chemists shops in the Uk} the other day.They have specially recorded instore mixtapes which they play on rotation.I think it's a pretty decent crossover record and sounded fine in that context.

Now he's on both and why not?

Does it matter what label he is on or if he has a connection to a crew?Play 'What' and 'Midnight Request Line' back to back,forget any 'political' context and then tell me they are both a different genre of music.

''of course this really doesn't have too much to do with grime meeting the symphony. I'm pretty damn skeptical of what the results might be, but it seems worth a try. Remember Portishead's live disc?'' That was their finest moment in my opinion.

My Mum quite likes it Too!

Dateline 2006 The Royal Albert Hall.The Last night of the Proms.Davinche conducts The Royal Phillharmonic in an arrangement of DJ Mondie's ''The Best Of British''{AKA The British National Anthem}The crowd sway from side to side in a spirit of unity whilst waving huge lighted spliffs aloft...

Acid Brass? I LOVED that!! Brass Band/Acid House totally did it for me.Put me right on one [matey].

What man are you refering to? Which street are you talking about? Seriously though,I can see the point that your making, but an interesting exchange of ideas just MAY come out of it. As Dogger has said ''This may well fall flat, but it's an intruiging idea and i think i'd like to witness the...

Why would you want this to fail? Can you explain please?

This could be great and even if it falls short musically it will get the people involved some much needed attention.It's interesting to read that DaVinChe is classically trained. At the end of the day neither DaVinChe or any of the MC's involved were 'born' as Grime peformers,so why shouldn't...