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yh I would agree that much of it feels soft - but I guess thats part of the ongoing reaction against 'aggy' dubstep? anyone clock Slimzee's shows on Rinse? thats some of the most exciting music (still)

so I bought Dedication today I think I prefer it (right now) to Splazsh, that might change but after a couple of listens, i'm really feeling it. to use the ol' cliche "it sounds like some futuristic b-boy shit" makes me want to go and paint a wall:D

ha, he does seem to have burnt a few bridges along the way, i like it tho' his abrasiveness is part of the appeal yh I want to hear it too, actually one of those times where I'll spend money on a CD, (I gladly spend money on vinyl but dont seem to do the same for digital)

Ha! makes you wonder sometimes, I was def listening to Jungle in 94 but never made it to Roast, I've got to admit it would have prob been fairly intimidating for a skinny white boy from the south west, I think Metalheadz in '96 was the first London drum and bass night I made it to, but that...

ur chest!

Goldie hardcore mix via Fact http://www.factmag.com/2011/07/11/fact-mix-264-goldie/ Its Goldie at the controls so its not tight, but the tunes are Euphony (Just For You London Kuff Mix) - Bodysnatch Let’s Get Together - Satin Storm LFO - LFO Energy Flash - Joey Beltram Voodoo Ray - A Guy...

however i did buy this 12" and I do like it,

terrible, tearout dubstep at dnb bpm:mad:

DJ Ron – AWOL ‘Live in London 94 Volume 1′ – May 1994 http://www.mediafire.com/?fvd0zi6p6421eho x amount of badness

re cities: that's maybe the point i'm trying to make - Is the simplification & democratisation of the music making process lessening the need for big cities to have central roles in creating new music?

I dont think either London or NY are really dead, but I do think the ease with which people can make music and promote themselves now has watered down so many genres Hip-hop is a great example - youtube gave us Souljah boy???? Please. Now he is in some ways a legitimate 'star' (less so now...

exactly, I have wondered this - why isnt funky taking over the streets (en masse not just pockets of fans)? I dont know what the answer is

im old and not bitter *grabs coat after realising Dissensus music threads are only for the young & bitter:p

thats what i'm saying - a true underground scene now is something like a book reading club, in the forest, spread by word of mouth

point me to the word of mouth, underground raves and I'm there (I have been to a few crusty ones in the woods:confused:)

I think part of the problem is there's no underground anymore, the net has virtually destroyed that, London is victim like anywhere else in that regard

I dont like these tracks from what I've heard they sound too experimental - like a beat work-out before its a full track

eh? does it matter? "if the cap fits" I like out of place samples - trends in samples are so obvious

ha! funnily enough I LOVE this one, this 12" gets battered regularly at mine