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  1. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    Yup, they really drill the serenity prayer into your mind in NA...the second one sounds a little like the anxiety disorder CBT approach... What's an encounter group? This sounds kind of amazing. (Wikipedia makes it sound like one of those things they send you to at work to encourage teamwork...)
  2. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    Here's a program I just saw on TV last night about Eden. The last half of the second part is the interesting stuff about ice age, floods, and lost hunter-gatherer lifestyles: Part 1 Part 2
  3. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    We were talking about CBT in another thread. They taught us a few of these techniques in outpatient, specifically to get through drug cravings, and I have to say they're very useful in general, I use them all the time. Ideally it goes like this: the feelings are going to come, don't ignore them...
  4. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    Sorry to call this one out, too, but saying that a "gatherer-hunter" lifestyle somehow equates to equality between the sexes is kind of rich considering the fact that most of our secondary sex characteristics and the distinct traits that we attribute to the biological sexes evolved in part...
  5. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    I missed that one...
  6. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    This made me chuckle, very emo: Stages of courtly love (Adapted from Barbara Tuchman[21]) Attraction to the lady, usually via eyes/glance Worship of the lady from afar Declaration of passionate devotion Virtuous rejection by the lady Renewed wooing with oaths of virtue and eternal fealty...
  7. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    Cool...I wonder why... Good points.
  8. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    No, I think those kinds of books and films hit on something real in the culture, but it's something really disturbing. It's another negative feedback loop where women have low self-esteem and no life whatsoever because they expect Prince Charming to "complete them", when maybe if they developed...
  9. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    This is a good point, but it's a point about how one tribe turning agricultural would have necessitated widescale transition... I've heard it explained that agriculture developed alongside certain 'maladaptive' (my choice of word) traits in humans like bigger frontal lobes and enhanced cognitive...
  10. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    But who thinks history has anything to do with "progress"? Certainly no present-day scientist does. Scientists don't really deal in "history" as such, more in "evolution", which is about change over time, but not necessarily progress. The notion that human history was a tale of progress was...
  11. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    I actually agree with Zhao that it might be prudent if impracticable for humans to return to a sustainable pre-agrarian lifestyle, but I don't understand what hunter-gatherer lifestyles have to do with a spiritual utopia, necessarily.
  12. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    Oh but having a really close family can be like another kind of dysfunction. I think I learned a lot of really negative patterns from being raised mostly in the Italian-American tradition where family is everything and you're almost in "romantic"-level relationships with each member of your...
  13. nomadthethird

    What scares you ???

    Oh, I've got one... looking at my bank balance online. I sometimes will find ways to avoid doing this for days and weeks. It fills me with dread.
  14. nomadthethird

    The sacred cows

    Dude, she's a lesbian.
  15. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    No I mean it.
  16. nomadthethird

    Dysfunctional relationships

    Our culture favors a version of "love" that is actually pretty dysfunctional in many respects. Movies, pop songs, and TV-- thanks to the broader historical, largely Judeo-Christian forces-- tend to depict love in ways that equate it with total self-denial and enmeshment. This leads to a society...
  17. nomadthethird

    l o v e

    I was going to say, my gaydar must need recalibrating...
  18. nomadthethird

    Postmodernity and christianity

    Also a perfect example of a maladaptive evolutionary trait, which evolution-deniers will often demand as proof that evolution is real.
  19. nomadthethird

    l o v e

    I like luka. I read through some of the thread, and sure--lots of my self-deprecating humor about my own dysfunctional behavior sprinkled with some vague leftisms and discussion--but Noel Emit talking in new ageisms about "essence" hardly blows the drug-addled studentisms out of the water. I've...
  20. nomadthethird

    l o v e

    Ha This really is a good thread
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