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    Hip Hop '11

    something about el-p's sound nowadays. its very clear and digital. i read he switched to ableton be quite nice if he switched back tbh. I think he has a different engineer too. i mean it sounds "better" technically, more studio. less grime tho.
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    Hip Hop '11

    apparently this was what the madvillain album got produced with just an sp in a hotel room and a kids record player. They then sent it to an engineer, i forget his name but he's great, who did a whole lot of work to it with parallel compression and ninja tech stuff, but didnt have the stems...
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    if New York can die so can London

    Cant help but think the narrative for music discusion is overly focused on specific artists creating change.. rather than, being manifestations of them. re kanye, lupe etc. they are somewhat inventive of the climate, but also just reflective too. It gets funneled through them, the best channel...
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    if New York can die so can London

    yes. dannybrowns probly my fav rapper atm. im just struck by the fact that he even exists, for exactly the same reasons. (re luka) Im also sometimes struck by the fact that nowadays people can walk around with such wtf haircuts & clothes, including me sometimes, when it wouldve meant instant...
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    Hip Hop '11

    i tried falling in love with The Infamous ever since it came out but never succeeded much other than shook ones. I only mention it because its considered a classic. with Midnight marauders, i might be pushing it. figaro and accordian are rap classics, it's also one of the last great...
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    Hip Hop '11

    madvillainy is as good as midnight marauders or the infamous, say. Actually no, its better. i agree i like just beats a great deal, when i was into krush in the 90s, it was because i loved hip hop production, not triphop. there'll always be a legit beat scene orbiting around hip hop I think.
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    if New York can die so can London

    i wouldve thought so. It also just an internet society effect, things like tumblr spread hipster/bohemian/skatekid values to teenagers all over the net.
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    if New York can die so can London

    yeh well u shouldnt get worked up because i wasnt really bemoaning the state of anything. I like all the rap groups i listed and the only metal ive listened to in years is the newer arty stuff. Also when I said everyone i know is in taste and looks a hipster, i was absolutely including myself.
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    if New York can die so can London

    dubsteps dead like rotting, pungent stench dead. Counter examples will be wasted on me im afraid. grime isnt exactly vibrantly alive is it. idk know what uk bass is. im not saying this is bad its about time these things keeled over, for something new. but Luka's point was really good. maybe NY...
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    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    yes also normal people couldnt give a single fuck where the sample comes from. its only us neckbeards who think about that shit.
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    if New York can die so can London

    they was talk of a new series of nathan barley, but they decided there was no point cos everyone's like that nowadays lol weird nowadays. its happening across all hardcoreish music, people like danny brown lil b, OF, would have been unimaginable in hip hop 10 years ago, apparently there's loads...
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    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    ok yeh that is different. listening to control now
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    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    yeh but normal people dont spend their every waking hour obsessing about music. from talking to producers i know, the good ones anyway, they seem to have slightly different preferences to journalists. they tend to be bit more cynical about hyped artists and a bit more ready to like stuff that...
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    James Blake

    sounds legit to me. probly my fav jb bit yet btw.. no u could not produce those tracks.
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    Hip Hop '11

    yep just those two, the others im familiar with. havent been so attentive to rap recently, tnx for the suggestions edit-that currensy beat was by dolobeats (in video description). its fucking Weird how these producers sell their music, his site is like sainsburys...
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    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    this was playing on my mind, had to get back to it. how to tell if a tune, or track element, has been written with authenticity of spirit rather than forced out.. intellectually implimented rather than emotively.. the whole question perplexes me in a way, its so vital, likewise answering it...
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    Hip Hop '11

    any mixtapes you would recommend? or tracks
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    Lukid

    shit, course u were posting up his vids not 1 page ago smdh
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    Lukid

    still alright tho lukid is raw. if 90s trip hop artists were as raw they'd be cool too.
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    Hip Hop '11

    yeh i was thinking of posting that. its enjoyable, cool he saved that beat from being lost on necro. trying to think of another rapper whose used a style so obviously derived from Meth, but i cant.
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