william_kent
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other_life
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i'll probably end up re-doing/re-working the main amen on this i'm workshopping it w someone in dm's rn
other_life
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did another mix of "WIGAN" but it's locked away 😈 gonna try to scheme putting the stuff ive been making this past month on wax, a little mini lp/maxi-ep. insinuate my way into the tim reaper set
the musical idea here isn't finished yet but im satisfied w it to this point as a rhythmic workout + vis a vis the elements and where they sit in the mix. can't tell if the next vector of development for it is
a) problematise what the main amen is doing without getting into breakcore territory
b) switch it out for a different breakbeat
c) a fuller sounding harmonic idea
d) some admixture of all the above
the musical idea here isn't finished yet but im satisfied w it to this point as a rhythmic workout + vis a vis the elements and where they sit in the mix. can't tell if the next vector of development for it is
a) problematise what the main amen is doing without getting into breakcore territory
b) switch it out for a different breakbeat
c) a fuller sounding harmonic idea
d) some admixture of all the above
Mr. Tea
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I really like this! Got a sort of Chicago industrial-club thing going on - I can easily imagine this being released on Wax Trax! - in fact I reckon you could easily fool people into thinking this was some Ministry-related side-project-of-a-side-project...
Lynch's Dune is a great source of samples (although obviously I had the benefit of YouTube and flv-to-MP3 websites - I appreciate your dedication in using a VHS player and a hardware sampler!). Here's one of the first tracks I made when I began messing about with Ableton Live and my Fender Jazz some years ago now:
Mr. Tea
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@other_life - is something up with SoundCloud or did you take down the tracks you up recently? I really liked the stuff you posted here a few years ago (downloaded some, in fact), so I wouldn't mind hearing it if you can get the links working again.
other_life
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oh lol i posted two rebuilds i did in that thread third and i were chatting in (turned spikeweed into a real song; fixed the levels esp. the low end on wigan)
0bleak
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Ah, yeah - I can see that. Maybe something like the Acid Horse project he did with Richard Kirk.
I mean, I probably wasn't consciously thinking Wax Trax specifically when I made it, but some of the general instrumental electronic stuff that I knew at the time whether or it was like the odd Wax Trax project or New Beat/Acid like Lords of Acid's I Sit on Acid (although I obviously wasn't making acid) or whatever was in the air around me at the time.
I would have loved to have been on Wax Trax though because, at the time, I was heavily into ebm like 242 and Ebb - I also made some ebm tracks with that same sampler which was the main reason I got it.
Pretty cool.
I think this has a sort of quasi-industrial feel even though it's slower.
Mr. Tea
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I'm glad someone else here knows about Acid Horse! It's such a great tune, that. Shame they only ever did that one single.
The main part of the beat in that tune of mine is sampled from an old Front 242 tune, as it happens. I think it has a weirdly dubstep-like lurch to it, despite coming out 15 years before anyone had heard of dubstep.
other_life
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EBM guys were real into 'making machines lurch and swing', innit
Mr. Tea
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I dig this one - I think you've invented, I dunno, acid fairground dub?
other_life
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ebm-new beat-italo mix from chris ott that is 'about' the Machine Swing concept
other_life
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it's almost 😱 dubstep
Mr. Tea
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Well, they were and they weren't, right? Some stuff by, say, Nitzer Ebb is sort of militantly un-funky.
But other stuff, sure.
0bleak
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I still have the 12" (with its fake sheet of acid), actually
It is but a couple of things from that era I still have.
Cool - I would have never guessed the sample.
I can definitely hear that dubstep lurch in your track - creative use of the original source!
Besides the beats, what I liked about it was that it was the most futuristic sounding stuff I knew at the time since classic electro was pretty much over by that time because hip hop had largely moved to samples.
video blocked in my country...
I'm gonna guess Let Your Body Learn or Murderous.
I have to say, after coming from electro first, that I generally liked the stuff better that had more syncopation even if the more straightforward stuff was an influence on some of the early techno people.
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0bleak
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Mr. Tea
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Sorry! You were correct on your first guess.