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Leo

Leo

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hey, he was getting a little sleepy and grumpy, so what, right?

One person familiar with the circumstances on Saturday notes that President Trump's phone call with Turnbull came after a long day of conversations with other foreign leaders -- Turnbull was the fifth call after conversations with Japanese Prime Minister Abe, French President Hollande, German Chancellor Merkel, and Russian President Putin, each of which lasted close to an hour.

Trump, this source said, was feeling some fatigue after his first major bout of diplomacy. And while his earlier conversations weren't necessarily contentious, they did involve some tense moments. Merkel and Hollande pushed back on the travel ban over the phone. Merkel felt she had to explain the Geneva Convention to Trump -- a lecture a source has said Trump chafed at.

A government official familiar with Trump's interactions with foreign leaders said, "(Trump's) interactions are naive in that he keeps suggesting we will have the best relationship ever with a broad departure of countries, but there is no substance to back it up. When he encounters a policy challenge, like with Turnbull, he responds with a tantrum."
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whatever happened to all that campaign talk about "stamina"? reassuring.
 
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sadmanbarty said:
On the one hand:

The program, "Countering Violent Extremism," or CVE, would be changed to "Countering Islamic Extremism" or "Countering Radical Islamic Extremism," the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO

on the other hand:

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https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

A disproportionate number of Muslims have been included on the watchlist, and because the database is accessible to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies nationwide, the ACLU said, they are exposed to “unwarranted scrutiny or investigation by police.” That level of scrutiny has hardly been applied to white supremacists, however, even though the country’s first anti-terrorism laws, in the 1870s, were aimed at protecting black citizens from groups like the KKK, and despite the ongoing threat posed by these extremists.

“This is a fundamental problem in this country: We simply do not take this flexible, and forgiving, and exceptionally understanding approach for combating any other form of terrorism,” said Jones. “Anybody who’s on social media advocating support for ISIS can be criminally charged with very little effort.”
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luka

luka

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Ending a statement with a single word sentence eg sad is a great rhetorical device tbf.
 
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Just in case anyone's missed it, latest madness is Spicer/Flynn claiming that Iran attacked a US ship to justify belligerence on iran, when in fact Houthi's attacked a Saudi ship.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/02...n-of-attacking-u-s-navy-vessel-an-act-of-war/

And Conway claiming the fictitious bowling green massacre justifies the Muslim ban:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...efugees-bowling-green-massacre-never-happened

Insane as this is, similar claims of the former have been treated with far less skepticism in the past - with historical and well known results.
 
luka

luka

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In Australia Howard famously made up a story about Iraqi refugees throwing babies off boats although I can't remember what their motivation was supposed to have been. Just innate gleeful evil I guess.
 
Leo

Leo

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There are a lot of bad dudes Down Under, and for years Australia has been sending them to America. They sent third-rate Air Supply, which has NO TALENT. “Lost in Love”? Pathetic. And Mel Gibson — a dope! Olivia Newton-John: highly overrated — and that “Grease” reunion she’s planning will be a TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT. Crocodile Dundee is a true lowlife, and Nemo is a dumb clownfish. SAD!
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
FAKE PRESIDENT

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-was-not-briefed-9766516

Donald Trump ‘was not briefed’ on an Executive Order he signed placing an ex-far right website owner on America’s National Security Council.

The President is reportedly fuming because he wasn’t told the piece of paper he signed would put Steve Bannon on the crucial committee.

According to the New York Times, not being fully briefed on the appointment is "a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban."
 
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sadmanbarty

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"Physicians who trained in the Middle East, about 15,000 total [8,243 from banned countries] make up nearly 10 percent of all foreign-trained medical graduates practicing in the U.S. today, and their work follows the same pattern as that of other doctors trained abroad — they disproportionately work in less-lucrative specialties, in high-shortage counties and in counties that voted heavily for Trump."

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...arder-to-find-a-psychiatrist-or-pediatrician/
 
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