I Hate The Film Canon: A Thread

[forclosure]

What’s your issue with Powell & Pressburger and the Italians?

nothing i just thought they'd be prime targets for contrarian opinions

 

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nothing i just thought they'd be prime targets for contrarian opinions

They’re my favorites so it’s only contrarian if you specifically want to piss me off, which is fair enough.

 

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i dont believe cinematography exists. its a made up word for pseuds. i was just taking the piss. it does have some good scenes in it thoguh im sure. i like when sarah connor is doing chin ups in the asylum

Ok, well the visual aspects of film: colour, tone, framing, depth, clarity, camera movement, etc. The surface details that I love and attach importance too and you hate and dismiss.

 

[luka]

you dont really love them you dont even notice them its just a willed hallucination

 

[luka]

i absolutely refuse to beleive any human being has ever watched a film and in all earnestness has gone, ooh, i love the way the camera moved there. theres no fucking way. no way. no.

 

[forclosure]

Ok, well the visual aspects of film: colour, tone, framing, depth, clarity, camera movement, etc. The surface details that I love and attach importance too and you hate and dismiss.

so what's your fav Powell & Pressburger then?

 

[luka]

so what's your fav Powell & Pressburger then?

hes going to force you to read one of his essays now!

 

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It is terrible, apart from the cinematography.

Yeah, absolutely.

 

[forclosure]

hes going to force you to read one of his essays now!

i've been reading Greg Tate lately so shouldn't be too awful unless he starts sounding like the kind of French film critic he swears he hates

 

[luka]

tbf its not one of his more boring ones

 

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You’ll be able to understand this essay now Versh:

The Fascist Revolution in ‘The Conformist’

Outside history man is nothing. Benito Mussolini I In 1970 Bernardo Bertolucci filmed Alberto Moravia’s novel The Conformist and in the process sparked a row with his friend and mentor Jean-Luc God…

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I actually read it right after watching as I was so frustrated with the film I had to read what other people had to say about it.

 

[version]

It felt like a complete mess as I was watching it; awkward, clunky, totally nonsensical.

 

[luka]

ive watched it but all i can remember is that theres a blind man in it and its black and white

 

[version]

It's in colour, but there is a blind man.

 

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i absolutely refuse to beleive any human being has ever watched a film and in all earnestness has gone, ooh, i love the way the camera moved there. theres no fucking way. no way. no.

You’re such a weird psycho sometimes. Literally a nutter.

 

[luka]

i just dont beleive it. it doesn't happen.

 

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i just dont beleive it. it doesn't happen.

Ok, well, you know, life is rich. People are different. Open your mind.

 

[luka]

my firm belief is that if a film was so boring that you broke immersion and did start idly noticing these things then the film is very boring and bad

 

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Yes, we all need firm beliefs.

 

[Clinamenic]

@luka would you say that appreciating the technique of, say, one J. H. Prynne would be an indication that the poem itself was insufficiently captivating and thus "boring and bad" as a result?