one thing that will become increasingly interesting is how the west and particularly americans respond to the rise of china, i mean people here, actual humans. what they want from their lives, what they expect from government, the kind of aspirations they have. these things are already being twisted into new forms as a consequence of chinas success.But thanks for reminding me of why I don't visit this place anymore: people who don't care at all about facts or rational debate, but just want to hammer their ignorant and self righteous biases.