Jordan Peterson thinks it makes sense to compare humans with lobsters

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Woebot said:
that's extremeley interesting. makes a lot of sense. a source would be useful.

my very own theory is that the use of alcohol and sugar (both especially) but essentially all stimulants is for the purpose of regulating, controlling and suppressing the body's dopamine production rather than stimulating it.

without stimulants - when you let the body's own systems regulate themselves - dopamine production goes absolutely haywire. that's the aim of the non-attachment "technologies" - but it's a perilous state to be in.

there's a relation to vitamin c production - as mammals we are unusal in that we no longer produce vitamin c in our bodies (it's biologically more efficent to outsource it). so we need to get it by eating plants (or by eating animals that have eaten it)
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I wish I hadn't been reading dissensus for about two hours and my eyes weren't melting because this seems like something important for me to grasp before I buy another yule log for myself.
 
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He just got tricked into retweeting fetish porn of men in hospital beds being 'milked' by machines. Apparently he thought it was a Chinese government breeding program.
 
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Peterson is on the same page as Dawkins, as he seems unwilling to stand up for the possible material existence of things that can't be verified right here right now by the constrained procedures of science.
 
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Apparently this is the first ever post about him on /lit/.

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Woebot said:
without stimulants - when you let the body's own systems regulate themselves - dopamine production goes absolutely haywire. that's the aim of the non-attachment "technologies" - but it's a perilous state to be in.
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Can you expand on this? Do you have personal experience? I assume you mean off caffeine entirely, for long periods, which I think very few people I've met have done. (Many avoid stimulants entirely, but don't have a good sense of the on-/off-)
 
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don't know if you would find this interesting, but I went without caffeine for about 30 years - stopped drinking caffeine in my teens (besides the odd caffeineted beverage once every month or two (oh, and also a stint for about a year about 20 years ago when I would have some in the morning... a lot of it to do with cross picking up each other's habits when you're involved with someone), and recently started drinking nothing but caffeine in the last couple of years.. weird how things change...
 
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0bleak said:
don't know if you would find this interesting, but I went without caffeine for about 30 years - stopped drinking caffeine in my teens (besides the odd caffeineted beverage once every month or two (oh, and also a stint for about a year about 20 years ago when I would have some in the morning... a lot of it to do with cross picking up each other's habits when you're involved with someone), and recently started drinking nothing but caffeine in the last couple of years.. weird how things change...
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How did things change?
 
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I got where I was just feeling weird having moved back to a place I hadn't lived in decades (the same place where it occurred to me to stop drinking caffeine in the first place, when I was in my teens so that i could avoid withdrawal headaches), and I felt kind of weird and isolated even though I was technically around a lot more family in the area... felt like I had kind of regressed, felt very unproductive, started suddenly having health issues so I just said fuck it...
 
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