Frank Zappa's Legacy, 25 Years on

[luka]

anything weird basically i hate it. all weird stuff. chuck it in the bin.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Webbie is now shaking his head so hard at you it's in danger of falling off

 

[Benny Bunter]

according to jim this is a zappa reference in prynnes new one snooty tip offs
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I can/am imagining this being read out by Captain Beefhart over an atonal Avant Garde blues backing track, and it's not good I have to say. The worst of both worlds.

 

[Benny Bunter]

As for the question in the thread title, he doesn't have any does he? If you have to choose between Zappa and Beefhart, which you have to do inevitably, Beefhart has always been the 'cooler' choice hasn't he? Much more influential on stuff like post punk (angular rhythms and that). Trying to reclaim Zappa as an anti-cool choice has never gone anywhere has it, it's about the most irredeemable music I can think of.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Even more so now we have cancel culture

 

[Benny Bunter]

And just musically, Zappa basically equals fretboard wanking and musical parody, whereas Beefhart is jagged, atonal rhythm n skronk, which has a much bigger legacy.

 

[woops]

angular rhythms

What does this mean though

 

[Benny Bunter]

What does this mean though

Ya know, spiky, awkward, jerky. Possibly shit clichéd choice of word but you know what I mean right?

 

[woops]

Ya know, spiky, awkward, jerky. Possibly shit clichéd choice of word but you know what I mean right?

Fair enough

 

[WashYourHands]

Xylophones, tempo/chord progressions

Beefheart locks into a groove and had the insight to let a composition swing. Ott vocals no doubt, but so did Coil with JB at times. There’s loads of pejorative epithets you could lob in the mix. Meat/murder

 

[Benny Bunter]

Xylophones, tempo/chord progressions

Beefheart locks into a groove and had the insight to let a composition swing.

Always liked this groovy one where it sounds like there's two rhythms off kilter with each other but still locked in. Not clattery like the troutmask stuff

 

[luka]

Awful.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Up yours, Luka!

 

[craner]

anything weird basically i hate it. all weird stuff. chuck it in the bin.

Wait, what, you like Can?

 

[luka]

Wait, what, you like Can?

No

 

[luka]

Can would be a decent mid tier band if not for those fucking awful vocals from the Japanese kook

 

[forclosure]

so what about Malcolm Mooney then?

 

[luka]

Not sure which ones did he do?

 

[luka]

There's one decent song on soon over bambalama

 

[craner]

Can would be a decent mid tier band if not for those fucking awful vocals from the Japanese kook

You told me they were amazing and too good for me to understand