Scorsese is stupid
GhostofKinski
Well-known member
The Book ‘I Heard You Paint Houses’
Is an excellent read.
kid charlemagne
Well-known member
amazing film.... i love walking home in nyc at 2am
GhostofKinski
Well-known member
King of Comedy
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
Whose That knocking on My Door
Marty S. Has made some excellent films.
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
Whose That knocking on My Door
Marty S. Has made some excellent films.
pattycakes
Well-known member
My dream scenario. Late night diner, minding my own business. In walks trouble...
woops
is not like other people
this is my fave film of his.
In Killers of the Flower Moon, everything: every shot, every character etc. felt impotent, isolated and blank at its core. It was really not worth the 3.5h of coccyx pain. Even Boxcar Bertha, which widely considered to be his worst, has the merit of having the chasing-and-jumping trains motion being integrated into the plot, thus has more of this determined and renewing energy to the film, which the former lacked.
kid charlemagne
Well-known member
the idea that a film about the uprooting and systematic erasure of the osage people needs to feel like a roller coaster ride is very funny.... i dont think its a perfect film, its not one of my favorites from him, and its a very dense film that is very weighty and has a very point a to point b wiki article structure, but the point in this film and the irishman is that these stories arent supposed to feel like goodfellas or the wolf of wall street.... what happened to the victims and families in real life was loathsome and revolting, which is why it is just as uncomfortable to watch on screen.... there was no real "flair" when it was happening to them in real life, which is why scorsese shows just as matter of fact on the screen.... KotFM/Irishman and Goodfellas/WoWS are the same story, but done in two different ways, and while I think the latter two are better films, it isnt because they use "flair" and are more thrilling films or whatever
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
My feeling with Scorcese's mafia films is they're great they're masterful etc but they're focused on a very narrow band of humanity, the psychos, perhaps they make the world to round but compared to master and commander: far side of the world you're only getting the slimmest slice of the human condition and THIS WILL NOT DO
shakahislop
Well-known member
ghost and woops are right, after hours is the only good one
GhostofKinski
Well-known member
His gangster films, his early ones anyway which are more Hoodlum than gangster
(Who’s that knocking/Mean Streets) are extremely personal and yes, very specific to time/place.
It’s very difficult maybe in the way Ken Loach & Mike Leigh (different style from MS not withstanding) if you aren’t familiar with how small NYC was then. Not in population size, but how polarized each neighborhood was to each other. The pool room brawl scene in Mean streets the cop asking where’re you from? The east side! Etc. that shit is 100% on the money. When I was a kid (10-12yo) when your parents said ‘don’t leave the neighborhood’ they were talking about a stretch of maybe two blocks in every direction. Even though if asked where you’re from you would answer ‘Red Hook’ or whatever. Your neighborhood really meant where your local bar, barber, butcher, parish was. It’s an anachronism I know. Mean streets essentially the same story as ‘The pope of Greenwich village, just for a wider audience. Very much in the same way ‘When Harry Met Sally’ was the made for a broader audience version of ‘Annie Hall’.
Goodfella’s is a comedy. If you know of, knew that world.
After Hours was the harbinger of gentrification. Kind of like Times Square in the decade long interregnum of being the sleaze capitol of the city to the Disney world of the city.
I think I already said on here I wasn’t crazy about ‘The Irishman’ the book is far superior.
I do think though that Pesci stole that movie & it was his finest performance on film.
I think my problem with KotFM was not that it lacked any flair but that all the raw humanity that was captured on screen felt like it either withered and drifted away before reaching the audience or simply never was able to reach the audience at all. Towards the end, I found myself to be interested in the story but not the film.
kid charlemagne
Well-known member
kid charlemagne
Well-known member
so many great showing respect moments in this film..... something i love a lot rewatching following the music, the film is a great explosive expression of scorsese's mind and taste in music, the first half is filled with traditional pop and doo wop tunes, and then the back half is littered with rolling stones, classic rock and blues music to cover how trashy and fatal the lives of the characters get.... perfect film
