Benny Bunter
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Just had a quick flick through Ithaca and I don't really see it, but it occurred to me maybe Beckett could be a sort of bridge between the two.
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Just had a quick flick through Ithaca and I don't really see it, but it occurred to me maybe Beckett could be a sort of bridge between the two.
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It's the technical stuff. The way he talks about the distance the water travels, the piping, etc. Reminds me of Prynne pulling from science books and inserting that sort of hard data and technical language into his poetry.
Benny Bunter
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Right yeah, I see what you mean.
Benny Bunter
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Also VALIS, Mcluhan, Mckenna, Jung, RAW, finally tackle the more difficult Blake stuff, etc etc.
Surprised that he doesn't seem to be interested in Burroughs, or am I wrong?
Benny Bunter
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I like how at one point he says something like "It may certainly be true that..." about some amazing coincidence or synchronicity he's discovered. Nice little slip or sleight of hand that keeps stringing you along.
It's a fine tightrope that he walks and he does it very well. He's a good writer. Plus he provides very convincing evidence.
It's a fine tightrope that he walks and he does it very well. He's a good writer. Plus he provides very convincing evidence.
Benny Bunter
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Definitely Maybe.
Benny Bunter
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That bit about the Chinese translator of finnegans wake cong rong is brilliant, and it certainly might even be true.
Benny Bunter
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Thought he'd have cited him on the Mayan calendar thing
Benny Bunter
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"It does not necessarily follow that because nothing ever happened on these dates that nothing comparable will ever happen...
..it happened in the imagination of XXX and, as an event in the imagination, it is eternal. It only lacks physical manifestation."
..it happened in the imagination of XXX and, as an event in the imagination, it is eternal. It only lacks physical manifestation."
Benny Bunter
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This is brilliant, and true I think.
"The Perfect will always lack. It is only the Whole which embraces the constant interplay of opposites. The Whole's affirmation of the cycle transforms it. The nightmare of history is created by those who attempt to perfect it, to make it pure. It is ended, or at least greatly altered, by realizing that no element, even evil itself, is ultimately dominant, determinant or essential. All is in play at once."
"The Perfect will always lack. It is only the Whole which embraces the constant interplay of opposites. The Whole's affirmation of the cycle transforms it. The nightmare of history is created by those who attempt to perfect it, to make it pure. It is ended, or at least greatly altered, by realizing that no element, even evil itself, is ultimately dominant, determinant or essential. All is in play at once."
Benny Bunter
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Wow, the whole "Like trying to control a dream" section of this book is unbelievably good.
Benny Bunter
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"It should be obvious by now that no movement, no event, no person, can ever be reduced to black and white terms. Complexity, nuance, variance, contradiction, surprise - these are always in play."
It's impressive how deep he goes into these wild, often opposite, ideas he's discussing, give them credence, while always always maintaining a fine balance. He manages to goes off into the deep end of conspiracy and imagination and keep a clear head throughout. Not an easy thing to do.
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Romans1132.org - Bible Verse Romans 11:32, Levant/Middle East - James Joyce - Romans chapter 11 verse 32
Joseph Campbell at age 81, Power of Myth with Bill Moyers regarding James Joyce and verse Romans 11:32 in 1986... Page 143: The big moment in the medieval myth is the awakening of the heart to compassion, the transformation of passion into compassion. That is the whole problem of the Grail
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